From bpfk-list+bncCJ2UzZHuDRCuhMjlBBoEJiMQfQ@googlegroups.com Sun Oct 10 11:13:18 2010 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P50OZ-0004sT-9W; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:13:18 -0700 Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15sf643390wwe.16 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:13:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=q2+jT03bmSXJZOXhVwocCPaB1amNJI7irvwmOwwISrc=; b=P9XvMctdeSOiGBdsiyDOrvulwzzJj3Pdh4GmmOinj7/ASZ9wy5d135f/9X55+xrUrF moOluldD4x7ILEuFRM/UZxDfjtccHXUSunPmjEu901z4Rw5e0Y3laVhzLjrrIvLyNWHk fCygV+Rq7cB3NStoIiGOUev8UmMzVBFsE+FpI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CxUTSw7UvwlnlhSrO3vW4lvJzxxRxUo3ZzBusZr/IqbYOYhwOaTyBZHAw80n44g4eT DV0+pyTYAtGM6MtdtxHAacRs1kibh7KWl+ahC5fRQxR3q87Sf+aUPyqpobBhwUPEwLuT ohBdtUvqPCoDvbOhPd6B7KjfoOQ54xXW5ua+c= Received: by 10.216.231.71 with SMTP id k49mr123544weq.14.1286734382339; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:13:02 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.242.202 with SMTP id i52ls1147194wer.0.p; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:13:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.161.9 with SMTP id v9mr261026wek.5.1286734381579; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:13:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.161.9 with SMTP id v9mr261025wek.5.1286734381558; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:13:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f41.google.com (mail-ww0-f41.google.com [74.125.82.41]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id o31si783668wej.2.2010.10.10.11.13.00; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:13:00 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.41 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.41; Received: by mail-ww0-f41.google.com with SMTP id 20so2005738wwd.4 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:13:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.135.141 with SMTP id n13mr4865475wbt.97.1286734380317; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:13:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.145.130 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:13:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4CB1F3EA.5000608@lojban.org> References: <4CB0B239.50107@lojban.org> <4CB1F3EA.5000608@lojban.org> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 15:13:00 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] BPFK work From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.41 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Robert LeChevalier wro= te: > > Actually, it would have to be fa'o lo zarci to be sure to end any prior t= ext > before starting the new one. This is the first time I hear about that. I'm pretty sure that the standard line until now was that anything after fa'o was to be ignored. And this is from the old old times, since fa'o has not received a lot of attention. >=A0But then for most practical purposes, .i or > ni'o are good enough. But they are not. The two texts ".i mi gleki" and ".i go'i ra'o" cannot be concatenated into one text without loss of meaning. The single text ".i mi gleki .i go'i ra'o" does not have the same meaning as the exchange of texts ".i mi gleki", ".i go'i ra'o". >"Back in the day" (makes me feel elderly to use that > phrase), we thought that each exchange in formal Lojban conversation woul= d > generally involve starting with .i or ni'o (recognizing that informally i= t > would usually be left out). The use of initial .i/ni'o makes little difference to this issue. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googleg= roups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-l= ist?hl=3Den.