From bpfk-list+bncCJ2UzZHuDRDG-sjlBBoEDz40Aw@googlegroups.com Sun Oct 10 15:25:25 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P54KY-00073B-MB; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 15:25:25 -0700 Received: by wyb40 with SMTP id 40sf670473wyb.16 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 15:25:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=43+qkJHI7XCmvTM+s3uFLQnzbpThbf3HO1lu/UpTcGg=; b=ldcn2A44i+Rf5X3INBJDghOh9d7+ij6OVXMUNk9fCaKC36W6IrYc+6raNyRgU57/p9 L4uNJJ1gN+AFiCj1dBdrpLLwFqwFKup/kqOeI+k/ciyPr7EYOvwplfi6jsdb23Hf/0u4 5VyhuwVH6vKq51NoTXdMa+4mM+bv6vzb6Ci0U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PrY/2BkTWSUZtw4QqpmiYeHsZUsMAgzYNEhkcWa07BYYrwDHx8mM0RZL+5FF37ZMsz M7VJc6nMnXDZrzdd5j1fsMBHdHBOBo9q1LmvbSNoNMg5lBBvB43n7x1WGCJEoMBBUnn1 w+7yylrG+bPPaUtcCvcY1/hOYQWMl7K7WIS6k= Received: by 10.216.231.71 with SMTP id k49mr136451weq.14.1286749510457; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 15:25:10 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.238.19 with SMTP id z19ls94039weq.2.p; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 15:25:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.63.209 with SMTP id a59mr149801wed.14.1286749509874; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 15:25:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.63.209 with SMTP id a59mr149800wed.14.1286749509802; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 15:25:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f169.google.com (mail-wy0-f169.google.com [74.125.82.169]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id w33si825653wbd.6.2010.10.10.15.25.08; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 15:25:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.169 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.169; Received: by wyb40 with SMTP id 40so642845wyb.28 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 15:25:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.142.198 with SMTP id r6mr5138349wbu.9.1286749003581; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 15:16:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.145.130 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 15:16:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4CB2386E.2000301@lojban.org> References: <4CB0B239.50107@lojban.org> <4CB1F3EA.5000608@lojban.org> <4CB20ADF.6050500@lojban.org> <4CB223F7.1060402@lojban.org> <4CB2386E.2000301@lojban.org> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 19:16:43 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] BPFK work From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.169 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Robert LeChevalier wro= te: > > JL7 (1988) has a conversation in which each exchange has an explicitly > marked as optionally omitted ".i" at the beginning. =A0Look in the sectio= n =A0"A > Very Short Introduction to Lojban Grammar". =A0It was understood that the > continuation ".i" was there even if not explicit (there are other sample > conversations in the same newsletter that do not have the explicit ".i", = so > I suspect that we just stopped teaching it because everyone (until now) > understood that exchanges were continuations. That "everyone" does not include me. How do you explain this exchange then: A: ie pei melbi donri B: nai B's reply is certainly not a continuation, because "ie pei melbi donri nai" is not grammatical, and there is no omitted ".i" because ".i nai" is also ungrammatical. The only way that can work in the official grammar is if B is responding with a new text. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googleg= roups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-l= ist?hl=3Den.