From bpfk-list+bncCK30vq5WEKbvmeYEGgT0mwMI@googlegroups.com Mon Oct 25 23:40:35 2010 Received: from mail-pw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PAdCy-0005af-75; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 23:40:35 -0700 Received: by pwi7 with SMTP id 7sf1497645pwi.16 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 23:40:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to :user-agent:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vLj+gDzSIQ1a8xATuPaTq4NzTG8Yzvq0b1WAXdFatqQ=; b=3HcSdpguWl1/j1F9QAlYeqbh3a5GzbJaMxTJaTYRJ47MHpsdArFLWxCJwO34DdzUMg YEIvWTWDfa5mdLeaHfEEa4o/lojq7ntoLhnBrM3SYIfNAC8gq7sghy9Pyoeac/D53GKL XLsjWXCH/o06Ovvqa/1487ezFcZRrmiwcnZSk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; b=QFPCvOw7o7YJfeCwQb1ZItiC13/bcD3zlvFz6Wyr38w9yXbe18qHSqV9iOuZoP3yYt 4vN2IoKgZpntBHu8xtnaHmj+GxqYZ+DX21stEx2MkH7RG6DWTLEeIUlPzqdBkeYZTWzC UcNEZ8Q3EL3x3MI1jf5fRKdEO/cN7QK6MjmAs= Received: by 10.142.249.18 with SMTP id w18mr359186wfh.43.1288075174057; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 23:39:34 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.78.15 with SMTP id a15ls9795504wfb.2.p; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 23:39:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.135.18 with SMTP id i18mr4700376wfd.22.1288075173218; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 23:39:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.135.18 with SMTP id i18mr4700375wfd.22.1288075173178; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 23:39:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org (digitalkingdom.org [173.13.139.234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id n6si18247579wfl.7.2010.10.25.23.39.33; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 23:39:33 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of nobody@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.234; Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PAdC0-0005UT-QT for bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 23:39:32 -0700 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PAdC0-0005UM-7z; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 23:39:32 -0700 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 23:39:32 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com, bpfk@lojban.org Subject: Re: [bpfk] CLL errata check: lujvo scoring Message-ID: <20101026063932.GL1105@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com, bpfk@lojban.org References: <20101026061117.GJ1105@digitalkingdom.org> <20101026063822.GK1105@digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20101026063822.GK1105@digitalkingdom.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of nobody@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nobody@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh, also, it means the actual formally written out immediately before is wrong, and possibly some of the surrounding verbiage. It also makes negative lujvo possible, which seems icky. -Robin On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:38:22PM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > If that's true, though, *all* the result numbers are wrong, not just > 12.1 >=20 > The values add up to what's given on the right of =3D with my fix. >=20 > Not saying that makes one more right than the other, I just want to > double-check here. >=20 > -Robin >=20 > On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 02:33:56AM -0400, John Cowan wrote: > > At the last minute we (which I think means Nora) decided to subtract > > everything from 32500 so that higher values =3D better lujvo. 12.1 > > obviously got missed, so your fix is just the wrong way round. > >=20 > > On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 2:11 AM, Robin Lee Powell > > wrote: > > > > > > So, Chapter 4: > > > > > > =A012.1) zbasai > > > =A0zba + sai > > > =A0(1000 * 6) - (500 * 0) + (100 * 0) - (10 * 15) - 3 > > > =A0=3D 5847 > > > > > > =A012.2) nunynau > > > =A0nun + y + nau > > > > > > =A032500 - (1000 * 7) + (500 * 0) - (100 * 1) + (10 * 13) + 3 > > > =A0=3D 6967 > > > > > > =A012.3) sairzbata'u > > > =A0sai + r + zba + ta'u > > > > > > =A032500 - (1000 * 11) + (500 * 1) - (100 * 1) + (10 * 21) + 5 > > > =A0=3D 10385 > > > > > > =A012.4) zbazbasysarji > > > =A0zba + zbas + y + sarji > > > > > > =A032500 - (1000 * 13) + (500 * 0) - (100 * 1) + (10 * 12) + 4 > > > =A0=3D 12976 > > > > > > Unless I'm very much mistaken, the 32500 should be removed and all > > > +/- swapped on those lines, so this should be: > > > > > > =A012.1) zbasai > > > =A0zba + sai > > > =A0(1000 * 6) - (500 * 0) + (100 * 0) - (10 * 15) - 3 > > > =A0=3D 5847 > > > > > > =A012.2) nunynau > > > =A0nun + y + nau > > > > > > =A0(1000 * 7) - (500 * 0) + (100 * 1) - (10 * 13) - 3 > > > =A0=3D 6967 > > > > > > =A012.3) sairzbata'u > > > =A0sai + r + zba + ta'u > > > > > > =A0(1000 * 11) - (500 * 1) + (100 * 1) - (10 * 21) - 5 > > > =A0=3D 10385 > > > > > > =A012.4) zbazbasysarji > > > =A0zba + zbas + y + sarji > > > > > > =A0(1000 * 13) - (500 * 0) + (100 * 1) - (10 * 12) - 4 > > > =A0=3D 12976 > > > > > > Double-check, please; I'm calling this True unless someone objects. > > > > > > -Robin > > > > > > -- > > > http://singinst.org/ : =A0Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. > > > Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot > > > is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" > > > is "na nei". =A0 My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gr= oups "BPFK" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@g= ooglegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/= bpfk-list?hl=3Den. > > > > > > > >=20 > > --=20 > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou= ps "BPFK" group. > > To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@goo= glegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bp= fk-list?hl=3Den. > >=20 >=20 > --=20 > http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. > Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot > is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" > is "na nei". 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