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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: In jbovlaste, the user krtisfranks has edited a definition of "pepsi" in the language "English". Differences: 5,5c5,5 < u'ivla: Character alignment on soda scale. This is not a simple matter of taste preference or of one product being more or less than the other product in some aspect (subjective or otherwise); this is an overall judgment of not only product quality and appearance, but is also a moral judgment of the product, the company, and (in contrast) of the opposing side (including the product, company, and fans thereof); in other words, it is an integral character alignment/trait (integrity) of the judge. Pepsi and Coca-Cola are taken to be directly opposing forces and archenemies/diametrically opposite alignments (by defaults, specification of of one determines the other uniquely). If x1 is better than x4 in overall goodness according to the judge, then x2 = 1 and the judge is a fan of x1 (and probably of x3); if x1 is equal to x4 in overall goodness according to the judge, then x2 = 0 (and the judge is probably weird); if x1 is worse than x4 in overall goodness according to the judge, then x2 = -1 and the judge is a fan of x4 (and probably of x5). The defaults work "backward" from what is given: specification of any of the products or companies in the first 5 terbri (excluding the jugment x2, at some level) uniquely determines the other terbri by default; PepsiCo is is associated by default with product Pepsi, the Coca-Cola company is associated by default with product Coke/Coca-Cola; by default, alignment x2 being n toward Pepsi/Coca-Cola (resp.) yields alignment -n toward Coca-Cola/Pepsi (resp.). See also: {besto}, {sodva}. --- > u'ivla: Character alignment on soda scale. This is not a simple matter of taste preference or of one product being more or less than the other product in some aspect (subjective or otherwise); this is an overall judgment of not only product quality and appearance, but is also a moral judgment of the product, the company, and (in contrast) of the opposing side (including the product, company, and fans thereof); in other words, it is an integral character alignment/trait (integrity) of [...] Content analysis details: (2.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 1.6 RCVD_IN_BRBL_LASTEXT RBL: RCVD_IN_BRBL_LASTEXT [173.13.139.235 listed in bb.barracudacentral.org] 0.4 RDNS_DYNAMIC Delivered to internal network by host with dynamic-looking rDNS In jbovlaste, the user krtisfranks has edited a definition of "pepsi" in the language "English". Differences: 5,5c5,5 < =09=09u'ivla: Character alignment on soda scale. This is not a simpl= e matter of taste preference or of one product being more or less than = the other product in some aspect (subjective or otherwise); this is an = overall judgment of not only product quality and appearance, but is als= o a moral judgment of the product, the company, and (in contrast) of th= e opposing side (including the product, company, and fans thereof); in = other words, it is an integral character alignment/trait (integrity) of= the judge. Pepsi and Coca-Cola are taken to be directly opposing force= s and archenemies/diametrically opposite alignments (by defaults, speci= fication of of one determines the other uniquely). If x1 is better than= x4 in overall goodness according to the judge, then x2 =3D 1 and the j= udge is a fan of x1 (and probably of x3); if x1 is equal to x4 in overa= ll goodness according to the judge, then x2 =3D 0 (and the judge is pro= bably weird); if x1 is worse than x4 in overall goodness according to t= he judge, then x2 =3D -1 and the judge is a fan of x4 (and probably of = x5). The defaults work "backward" from what is given: specification of = any of the products or companies in the first 5 terbri (excluding the j= ugment x2, at some level) uniquely determines the other terbri by defau= lt; PepsiCo is is associated by default with product Pepsi, the Coca-Co= la company is associated by default with product Coke/Coca-Cola; by def= ault, alignment x2 being n toward Pepsi/Coca-Cola (resp.) yields alignm= ent -n toward Coca-Cola/Pepsi (resp.). See also: {besto}, {sodva}. --- > =09=09u'ivla: Character alignment on soda scale. This is not a simpl= e matter of taste preference or of one product being more or less than = the other product in some aspect (subjective or otherwise); this is an = overall judgment of not only product quality and appearance, but is als= o a moral judgment of the product, the company, and (in contrast) of th= e opposing side (including the product, company, and fans thereof); in = other words, it is an integral character alignment/trait (integrity) of= the judge. Pepsi and Coca-Cola are taken to be directly opposing force= s and archenemies/diametrically opposite alignments (by defaults, speci= fication of of one determines the other uniquely). If x1 is better than= x4 in overall goodness according to the judge, then x2 =3D 1 and the j= udge is a fan of x1 (and probably of x3); if x1 is equal to x4 in overa= ll goodness according to the judge, then x2 =3D 0 (and the judge is pro= bably weird); if x1 is worse than x4 in overall goodness according to t= he judge, then x2 =3D -1 and the judge is a fan of x4 (and probably of = x5); this evaluation essentially determines the "morally" favored compa= ny of the judge. The defaults work "backward" from what is given: speci= fication of any of the products or companies in the first 5 terbri (exc= luding the jugment x2, at some level) uniquely determines the other ter= bri by default; PepsiCo is is associated by default with product Pepsi,= the Coca-Cola company is associated by default with product Coke/Coca-= Cola; by default, alignment x2 being n toward Pepsi/Coca-Cola (resp.) y= ields alignment -n toward Coca-Cola/Pepsi (resp.). The biggest blunder = (x9) of the Coca-Cola Company is probably/arguably New Coke. See also:= {besto}, {sodva}. Old Data: =09Definition: =09=09$x_1$ (default: Pepsi) is a soda product that is better/equal/wor= se $x_2$ (li, number; resp.: 1, 0, -1; no default), and is produced/man= ufactured by $x_3$ (default: whichever company makes sense [for absolut= ely default case: PepsiCo]), with aforementioned evaluation compared to= /against soda product $x_4$ (default: the analog/similar but competing/= archrival soda; [for absolute default: Coke/Coca-Cola]) of producer/man= ufactuer (enemy) $x_5$ (default: whichever other (opposing) company mak= es sense [for absolutely default case: the Coca-Cola Company]) accordin= g to the taste preference of, moral judgment of, and overall goodness (= quality) evaluation by (judge/evaluator) $x_6$ (probable contextless de= fault: speaker/utterer), who is ranked as a fan of the formermost/latte= rmost [depending on evaluation given by $x_2$; see notes] product or co= mpany with die-hard rating $x_7$ (li, number; subjective) on scale $x_8= $ (si'o), despite (or because of) hating bad-decision product/admitting= short-sighted failure (of favored [see note] company) $x_9$ (default: = the publicly-declared worst one/the most decried error); where evaluato= r [$x_6$] generally ignores third-party soda product $x_{10}$, which is= produced/manufactured by (company) $x_{11}$, even though said evaluato= r judges the said third-party product and/or producer to have overall g= oodness/quality (taste preference, product design appeal/evaluation, mo= ral judgment, etc.) $x_{12}$ [need not be a number in this case] accord= ing to scheme $x_{13}$ (si'o); where the first judgment [$x_2$] is acco= rding to scheme/justification $x_{14}$, which really should not need ex= plaining anyway, you nincompoop. $x_6$ has soda character alignment $x_= 2$ toward product $x_1$ and company $x_3$ that produces it. =09Notes: =09=09u'ivla: Character alignment on soda scale. This is not a simple = matter of taste preference or of one product being more or less than th= e other product in some aspect (subjective or otherwise); this is an ov= erall judgment of not only product quality and appearance, but is also = a moral judgment of the product, the company, and (in contrast) of the = opposing side (including the product, company, and fans thereof); in ot= her words, it is an integral character alignment/trait (integrity) of t= he judge. Pepsi and Coca-Cola are taken to be directly opposing forces = and archenemies/diametrically opposite alignments (by defaults, specifi= cation of of one determines the other uniquely). If x1 is better than x= 4 in overall goodness according to the judge, then x2 =3D 1 and the jud= ge is a fan of x1 (and probably of x3); if x1 is equal to x4 in overall= goodness according to the judge, then x2 =3D 0 (and the judge is proba= bly weird); if x1 is worse than x4 in overall goodness according to the= judge, then x2 =3D -1 and the judge is a fan of x4 (and probably of x5= ). The defaults work "backward" from what is given: specification of an= y of the products or companies in the first 5 terbri (excluding the jug= ment x2, at some level) uniquely determines the other terbri by default= ; PepsiCo is is associated by default with product Pepsi, the Coca-Cola= company is associated by default with product Coke/Coca-Cola; by defau= lt, alignment x2 being n toward Pepsi/Coca-Cola (resp.) yields alignmen= t -n toward Coca-Cola/Pepsi (resp.). See also: {besto}, {sodva}. =09Jargon: =09=09 =09Gloss Keywords: =09=09Word: Coca-Cola, In Sense: morality alignment =09=09Word: Pepsi, In Sense: morality alignment =09=09Word: Soda War morality alignment, In Sense:=20 =09=09Word: alignment (soda), In Sense: soda preference =09=09Word: character alignment (soda), In Sense: soda preference =09Place Keywords: New Data: =09Definition: =09=09$x_1$ (default: Pepsi) is a soda product that is better/equal/wor= se $x_2$ (li, number; resp.: 1, 0, -1; no default), and is produced/man= ufactured by $x_3$ (default: whichever company makes sense [for absolut= ely default case: PepsiCo]), with aforementioned evaluation compared to= /against soda product $x_4$ (default: the analog/similar but competing/= archrival soda; [for absolute default: Coke/Coca-Cola]) of producer/man= ufactuer (enemy) $x_5$ (default: whichever other (opposing) company mak= es sense [for absolutely default case: the Coca-Cola Company]) accordin= g to the taste preference of, moral judgment of, and overall goodness (= quality) evaluation by (judge/evaluator) $x_6$ (probable contextless de= fault: speaker/utterer), who is ranked as a fan of the formermost/latte= rmost [depending on evaluation given by $x_2$; see notes] product or co= mpany with die-hard rating $x_7$ (li, number; subjective) on scale $x_8= $ (si'o), despite (or because of) hating bad-decision product/admitting= short-sighted failure (of favored [see note] company) $x_9$ (default: = the publicly-declared worst one/the most decried error); where evaluato= r [$x_6$] generally ignores third-party soda product $x_{10}$, which is= produced/manufactured by (company) $x_{11}$, even though said evaluato= r judges the said third-party product and/or producer to have overall g= oodness/quality (taste preference, product design appeal/evaluation, mo= ral judgment, etc.) $x_{12}$ [need not be a number in this case] accord= ing to scheme $x_{13}$ (si'o); where the first judgment [$x_2$] is acco= rding to scheme/justification $x_{14}$, which really should not need ex= plaining anyway, you nincompoop. $x_6$ has soda character alignment $x_= 2$ toward product $x_1$ and company $x_3$ that produces it. =09Notes: =09=09u'ivla: Character alignment on soda scale. This is not a simple = matter of taste preference or of one product being more or less than th= e other product in some aspect (subjective or otherwise); this is an ov= erall judgment of not only product quality and appearance, but is also = a moral judgment of the product, the company, and (in contrast) of the = opposing side (including the product, company, and fans thereof); in ot= her words, it is an integral character alignment/trait (integrity) of t= he judge. Pepsi and Coca-Cola are taken to be directly opposing forces = and archenemies/diametrically opposite alignments (by defaults, specifi= cation of of one determines the other uniquely). If x1 is better than x= 4 in overall goodness according to the judge, then x2 =3D 1 and the jud= ge is a fan of x1 (and probably of x3); if x1 is equal to x4 in overall= goodness according to the judge, then x2 =3D 0 (and the judge is proba= bly weird); if x1 is worse than x4 in overall goodness according to the= judge, then x2 =3D -1 and the judge is a fan of x4 (and probably of x5= ); this evaluation essentially determines the "morally" favored company= of the judge. The defaults work "backward" from what is given: specifi= cation of any of the products or companies in the first 5 terbri (exclu= ding the jugment x2, at some level) uniquely determines the other terbr= i by default; PepsiCo is is associated by default with product Pepsi, t= he Coca-Cola company is associated by default with product Coke/Coca-Co= la; by default, alignment x2 being n toward Pepsi/Coca-Cola (resp.) yie= lds alignment -n toward Coca-Cola/Pepsi (resp.). The biggest blunder (x= 9) of the Coca-Cola Company is probably/arguably New Coke. See also: {= besto}, {sodva}. =09Jargon: =09=09 =09Gloss Keywords: =09=09Word: Coca-Cola, In Sense: morality alignment =09=09Word: Pepsi, In Sense: morality alignment =09=09Word: Soda War morality alignment, In Sense:=20 =09=09Word: alignment (soda), In Sense: soda preference =09=09Word: character alignment (soda), In Sense: soda preference =09Place Keywords: You can go to to see it.