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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: In jbovlaste, the user djeikyb has edited a definition of "kanpe" in the language "English". Differences: 5,5c5,5 < The value of $x_3$ is a subjective estimate of likeliness according to $x_1$, and is the basic determinant of whether kanpe means something like "hope" or "wish" or "expect", although kanpe never carries the connotation of desire; for that connotation see {pacna}. kanpe with $x_3$ not very close to 1 has no simple equivalent in English, but for objects/states with negligible expectation it is something like "wishing"; if the state is plausibly likely, it is something like "hoping". In both cases, though, the English implication of emotional desire is not present. The value will usually be expressed using inexact numbers ("{li} {piso'u}" to "{li} {piro}"); not-necessarily desirous wish, not-necessarily-desirous hope. See also {djica}, {pacna}, {lakne}, {cunso}. --- > The value of $x_3$ is a subjective estimate of likeliness according to $x_1$, and is the basic determinant of whether kanpe means something like "hope" or "wish" or "expect", although kanpe never carries the connotation of desire; for that connotation see {pacna}. kanpe with $x_3$ not very close to 1 has no simple equivalent in English, but for objects/states with negligible expectation it is something like "wishing"; if the state is plausibly likely, it is something like "hoping". In both cases, though, the English implication of emotional desire is not present. The value will usually be expressed using inexact numbers ("{li} {piso'u}" to "{li} {piro}"); not-necessarily desirous wish, not necessarily desirous hope. See also {djica}, {pacna}, {lakne}, {cunso}. 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Differences: 5,5c5,5 < The value of $x_3$ is a subjective estimate of likeliness according to $x_1$, and is the basic determinant of whether kanpe means something like "hope" or "wish" or "expect", although kanpe never carries the connotation of desire; for that connotation see {pacna}. kanpe with $x_3$ not very close to 1 has no simple equivalent in English, but for objects/states with negligible expectation it is something like "wishing"; if the state is plausibly likely, it is something like "hoping". In both cases, though, the English implication of emotional desire is not present. The value will usually be expressed using inexact numbers ("{li} {piso'u}" to "{li} {piro}"); not-necessarily desirous wish, not-necessarily-desirous hope. See also {djica}, {pacna}, {lakne}, {cunso}. --- > The value of $x_3$ is a subjective estimate of likeliness according to $x_1$, and is the basic determinant of whether kanpe means something like "hope" or "wish" or "expect", although kanpe never carries the connotation of desire; for that connotation see {pacna}. kanpe with $x_3$ not very close to 1 has no simple equivalent in English, but for objects/states with negligible expectation it is something like "wishing"; if the state is plausibly likely, it is something like "hoping". In both cases, though, the English implication of emotional desire is not present. The value will usually be expressed using inexact numbers ("{li} {piso'u}" to "{li} {piro}"); not-necessarily desirous wish, not necessarily desirous hope. See also {djica}, {pacna}, {lakne}, {cunso}. Old Data: Definition: $x_1$ expects/looks for the occurence of $x_2$ (event), expected likelihood $x_3$ (0-1, default {li} {so'a} i.e. near 1); $x_1$ subjectively evaluates the likelihood of $x_2$ (event) to be $x_3$. Notes: The value of $x_3$ is a subjective estimate of likeliness according to $x_1$, and is the basic determinant of whether kanpe means something like "hope" or "wish" or "expect", although kanpe never carries the connotation of desire; for that connotation see {pacna}. kanpe with $x_3$ not very close to 1 has no simple equivalent in English, but for objects/states with negligible expectation it is something like "wishing"; if the state is plausibly likely, it is something like "hoping". In both cases, though, the English implication of emotional desire is not present. The value will usually be expressed using inexact numbers ("{li} {piso'u}" to "{li} {piro}"); not-necessarily desirous wish, not-necessarily-desirous hope. See also {djica}, {pacna}, {lakne}, {cunso}. Jargon: Gloss Keywords: Word: expect, In Sense: Place Keywords: New Data: Definition: $x_1$ expects/looks for the occurence of $x_2$ (event), expected likelihood $x_3$ (0-1, default {li} {so'a} i.e. near 1); $x_1$ subjectively evaluates the likelihood of $x_2$ (event) to be $x_3$. Notes: The value of $x_3$ is a subjective estimate of likeliness according to $x_1$, and is the basic determinant of whether kanpe means something like "hope" or "wish" or "expect", although kanpe never carries the connotation of desire; for that connotation see {pacna}. kanpe with $x_3$ not very close to 1 has no simple equivalent in English, but for objects/states with negligible expectation it is something like "wishing"; if the state is plausibly likely, it is something like "hoping". In both cases, though, the English implication of emotional desire is not present. The value will usually be expressed using inexact numbers ("{li} {piso'u}" to "{li} {piro}"); not-necessarily desirous wish, not necessarily desirous hope. See also {djica}, {pacna}, {lakne}, {cunso}. Jargon: Gloss Keywords: Word: expect, In Sense: Place Keywords: You can go to to see it.