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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: In jbovlaste, the user gleki has edited a definition of "ju'u'i" in the language "English". Differences: 5,5c5,5 < --- > When a string of multiple digits is on either side of {pi'e}, the string is to be interpreted as a single "macrodigit" in the longer numeric string; let the digits that compose it be called "microdigits" for clarity. By default, the macrodigit is interpreted as being written/expressed in some cultural or grammatical default (this default is overridden by {ju'au} if its specifying sumti requires an alternative interpretation for the value of the macrodigits), probably decimal- the interpretation of the string of microdigits produces a number, x; the "{pi'e}" implies the denominator to be used in determining the fraction for which x is in the numerator and context or possibly a specified base determines its value- in timekeeping, the interpretation is typically x/60 for certain macrodigits. However, the default for determining the value of x given a string of microdigits might be useful to override (for example, Tsohnai uses an overall factorial base but each macrodigit is written in balanced quinary); this word specifies the base used for interpreting the macrodigit from a string of microdigits. It is placed at the end of the string (possibly before the next "{pi'e}") and its scope of effect extends from there, through the string of microdigits, to either the beginning of the number as a whole or the most recent "{pi'e}" (whichsoever was more recently uttered). It is to be followed by a sumti (or multiple sumti strung together by connectives) and has its scope of specification terminate with that sumti; in this regard, it works syntactically and semantically exactly like {ju'au}. In fact, {ju'au} can be used outside of the number in order to specify the macrodigit interpretation instead of this word (for example, if its sumti were la .tsonais., this word would not be needed); however, if only a sequence were to have been given as the argument of {ju'au} (such as the factorial sequence) and if some base other than decimal were desired for the interpretation of each macrodigit from the string of [...] Content analysis details: (0.5 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: lojban.org] 1.4 RCVD_IN_BRBL_LASTEXT RBL: No description available. [173.13.139.235 listed in bb.barracudacentral.org] -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 1.0 RDNS_DYNAMIC Delivered to internal network by host with dynamic-looking rDNS In jbovlaste, the user gleki has edited a definition of "ju'u'i" in the language "English". Differences: 5,5c5,5 < =09=09 --- > =09=09When a string of multiple digits is on either side of {pi'e}, t= he string is to be interpreted as a single "macrodigit" in the longer n= umeric string; let the digits that compose it be called "microdigits" f= or clarity. By default, the macrodigit is interpreted as being written/= expressed in some cultural or grammatical default (this default is over= ridden by {ju'au} if its specifying sumti requires an alternative inter= pretation for the value of the macrodigits), probably decimal- the inte= rpretation of the string of microdigits produces a number, x; the "{pi'= e}" implies the denominator to be used in determining the fraction for = which x is in the numerator and context or possibly a specified base de= termines its value- in timekeeping, the interpretation is typically x/6= 0 for certain macrodigits. However, the default for determining the val= ue of x given a string of microdigits might be useful to override (for = example, Tsohnai uses an overall factorial base but each macrodigit is = written in balanced quinary); this word specifies the base used for int= erpreting the macrodigit from a string of microdigits. It is placed at = the end of the string (possibly before the next "{pi'e}") and its scope= of effect extends from there, through the string of microdigits, to ei= ther the beginning of the number as a whole or the most recent "{pi'e}"= (whichsoever was more recently uttered). It is to be followed by a sum= ti (or multiple sumti strung together by connectives) and has its scope= of specification terminate with that sumti; in this regard, it works s= yntactically and semantically exactly like {ju'au}. In fact, {ju'au} ca= n be used outside of the number in order to specify the macrodigit inte= rpretation instead of this word (for example, if its sumti were la .tso= nais., this word would not be needed); however, if only a sequence were= to have been given as the argument of {ju'au} (such as the factorial s= equence) and if some base other than decimal were desired for the inter= pretation of each macrodigit from the string of microdigits, then this = word would be used. If only one macrodigit appears in the number, then = this word is equivalent to {ju'au}. In short, the scope of this word is= one contiguous string of microdigits, and it influences their interpre= tation into a macrodigit value in the same way that {ju'au} does. Howev= er, if both {ju'au} and this word specify how to interpret a given stri= ng of microdigits in the same number (composed of macrodigits), this wo= rd overrides the interpretation specified by {ju'au} (but only for this= macrodigit); thus, for example, a Tsohnai number can have each of its = macrodigits be interpreted in balanced quinary except one, which the sp= eaker specifies via this word, because they know the value but did not = want to convert it to balanced quinary (because it may be too large or = hard to do so easily), so they instead expressed it in decimal. Old Data: =09Definition: =09=09long-digit interpretation specifier; macrodigit named base specif= ier =09Notes: =09=09 =09Jargon: =09=09 =09Gloss Keywords: =09=09Word: long-digit interpretation specifier, In Sense:=20 =09=09Word: macrodigit named base specifier, In Sense:=20 =09Place Keywords: New Data: =09Definition: =09=09long-digit interpretation specifier; macrodigit named base specif= ier =09Notes: =09=09When a string of multiple digits is on either side of {pi'e}, the= string is to be interpreted as a single "macrodigit" in the longer num= eric string; let the digits that compose it be called "microdigits" for= clarity. By default, the macrodigit is interpreted as being written/ex= pressed in some cultural or grammatical default (this default is overri= dden by {ju'au} if its specifying sumti requires an alternative interpr= etation for the value of the macrodigits), probably decimal- the interp= retation of the string of microdigits produces a number, x; the "{pi'e}= " implies the denominator to be used in determining the fraction for wh= ich x is in the numerator and context or possibly a specified base dete= rmines its value- in timekeeping, the interpretation is typically x/60 = for certain macrodigits. However, the default for determining the value= of x given a string of microdigits might be useful to override (for ex= ample, Tsohnai uses an overall factorial base but each macrodigit is wr= itten in balanced quinary); this word specifies the base used for inter= preting the macrodigit from a string of microdigits. It is placed at th= e end of the string (possibly before the next "{pi'e}") and its scope o= f effect extends from there, through the string of microdigits, to eith= er the beginning of the number as a whole or the most recent "{pi'e}" (= whichsoever was more recently uttered). It is to be followed by a sumti= (or multiple sumti strung together by connectives) and has its scope o= f specification terminate with that sumti; in this regard, it works syn= tactically and semantically exactly like {ju'au}. In fact, {ju'au} can = be used outside of the number in order to specify the macrodigit interp= retation instead of this word (for example, if its sumti were la .tsona= is., this word would not be needed); however, if only a sequence were t= o have been given as the argument of {ju'au} (such as the factorial seq= uence) and if some base other than decimal were desired for the interpr= etation of each macrodigit from the string of microdigits, then this wo= rd would be used. If only one macrodigit appears in the number, then th= is word is equivalent to {ju'au}. In short, the scope of this word is o= ne contiguous string of microdigits, and it influences their interpreta= tion into a macrodigit value in the same way that {ju'au} does. However= , if both {ju'au} and this word specify how to interpret a given string= of microdigits in the same number (composed of macrodigits), this word= overrides the interpretation specified by {ju'au} (but only for this m= acrodigit); thus, for example, a Tsohnai number can have each of its ma= crodigits be interpreted in balanced quinary except one, which the spea= ker specifies via this word, because they know the value but did not wa= nt to convert it to balanced quinary (because it may be too large or ha= rd to do so easily), so they instead expressed it in decimal. =09Jargon: =09=09 =09Gloss Keywords: =09=09Word: long-digit interpretation specifier, In Sense:=20 =09=09Word: macrodigit named base specifier, In Sense:=20 =09Place Keywords: You can go to to see it.