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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2015 09:32:32 -0700
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Subject: [jvsw] Definition Edited At Word toldju -- By spheniscine
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 Content preview:  In jbovlaste, the user spheniscine has edited a definition
    of "toldju" in the language "English". Differences: 5,5c5,5 < Not the emotional
    sense of "frustrate", which is {se} {steba}. This is a difficult concept
   to gloss in English; the desired sense is more like "un-help", and is equivalent
    to {to'e} {sidju}. See {zunti} --- > Not the emotional sense of "frustrate",
    which is {se} {steba} or {fanza}. This is a difficult concept to gloss in
    English; the desired sense is more like "un-help", and is equivalent to {to'e}
    {sidju}. See {zunti} [...] 
 
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In jbovlaste, the user spheniscine has edited a
definition of "toldju" in the language "English".

Differences:

5,5c5,5
< 		Not the emotional sense of "frustrate", which is {se} {steba}. This is a difficult concept to gloss in English; the desired sense is more like "un-help", and is equivalent to {to'e} {sidju}. See {zunti}
---
> 		Not the emotional sense of "frustrate", which is {se} {steba} or {fanza}. This is a difficult concept to gloss in English; the desired sense is more like "un-help", and is equivalent to {to'e} {sidju}. See {zunti}


Old Data:

	Definition:
		$x_1$ frustrates $x_2$ from doing event/activity $x_3$; $x_1$ makes doing $x_3$ harder for $x_2$

	Notes:
		Not the emotional sense of "frustrate", which is {se} {steba}. This is a difficult concept to gloss in English; the desired sense is more like "un-help", and is equivalent to {to'e} {sidju}. See {zunti}

	Jargon:
		

	Gloss Keywords:
		Word: frustrate, In Sense: make something harder

	Place Keywords:


New Data:

	Definition:
		$x_1$ frustrates $x_2$ from doing event/activity $x_3$; $x_1$ makes doing $x_3$ harder for $x_2$

	Notes:
		Not the emotional sense of "frustrate", which is {se} {steba} or {fanza}. This is a difficult concept to gloss in English; the desired sense is more like "un-help", and is equivalent to {to'e} {sidju}. See {zunti}

	Jargon:
		

	Gloss Keywords:
		Word: frustrate, In Sense: make something harder

	Place Keywords:


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