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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: In jbovlaste, the user krtisfranks has edited a definition of "sau'e'u" in the language "English". Differences: 5,5c5,5 < It works rather like UI on a conceptual level, but it is bound to the following sumti instead (not just any constuct), which is more like a sumtcita syntactically. This word is good for the subject line in an email or post. It is used to put the audience's mind in the proper/correct thought frame (mindset). It does not really change the meaning of the bridi, but it does indicate to what its content semantically pertains or relates. It can be used as a reminder; for example, "Remember when you told me to go to the store? What did you want me to buy?" -> "Concerning the event of my going to the store, what did you want me to buy?" -> "sau'e'u lonu mi klama location zarci keiku do djica lonu vecnu ma mi". It is not as attached to the bridi as {sera'a}; this is more discursive and somewhat more meta. The specified topic may endure until the end of the discourse, or the paragraph, or the bridi; it is explicitly cancelled/negated by "{sau'e'unai}" followed by a pointer to whichever part of the topic is being concluded in thought and discourse. If Eulojban (more specifically, the diphthong/digraph "eu") is ever accepted (in Lojban) as valid, .krtisfranks. would prefer that this word'search meaning get directly transferred to and preserved in "{sau'eu}", with this word unassigned/ likewise for "{sau'eunai}". --- > It works rather like UI on a conceptual level, but it is bound to the following sumti instead (not just any constuct), which is more like a sumtcita syntactically. This word is good for the subject line in an email or post; in a conversation with multiple topics (and possibly multiple people responding simultaneously with multiple paragraphs for each topic), it can be used as an organizational tool. It is used to put the audience's mind in the proper/correct thought frame (mindset). It does not really change the meaning of the bridi, but it does indicate to what its content semantically pertains or relates. It can be used as a reminder; for example, "Remember when you told me to go to the store? What [...] Content analysis details: (0.5 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: lojban.org] 1.4 RCVD_IN_BRBL_LASTEXT RBL: No description available. [173.13.139.235 listed in bb.barracudacentral.org] -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 1.0 RDNS_DYNAMIC Delivered to internal network by host with dynamic-looking rDNS In jbovlaste, the user krtisfranks has edited a definition of "sau'e'u" in the language "English". Differences: 5,5c5,5 < =09=09It works rather like UI on a conceptual level, but it is bound = to the following sumti instead (not just any constuct), which is more l= ike a sumtcita syntactically. This word is good for the subject line in= an email or post. It is used to put the audience's mind in the proper/= correct thought frame (mindset). It does not really change the meaning = of the bridi, but it does indicate to what its content semantically per= tains or relates. It can be used as a reminder; for example, "Remember = when you told me to go to the store? What did you want me to buy?" -> "= Concerning the event of my going to the store, what did you want me to = buy?" -> "sau'e'u lonu mi klama location zarci keiku do djica lonu vecn= u ma mi". It is not as attached to the bridi as {sera'a}; this is more = discursive and somewhat more meta. The specified topic may endure until= the end of the discourse, or the paragraph, or the bridi; it is explic= itly cancelled/negated by "{sau'e'unai}" followed by a pointer to which= ever part of the topic is being concluded in thought and discourse. If = Eulojban (more specifically, the diphthong/digraph "eu") is ever accept= ed (in Lojban) as valid, .krtisfranks. would prefer that this word'sear= ch meaning get directly transferred to and preserved in "{sau'eu}", wit= h this word unassigned/ likewise for "{sau'eunai}". --- > =09=09It works rather like UI on a conceptual level, but it is bound = to the following sumti instead (not just any constuct), which is more l= ike a sumtcita syntactically. This word is good for the subject line in= an email or post; in a conversation with multiple topics (and possibly= multiple people responding simultaneously with multiple paragraphs for= each topic), it can be used as an organizational tool. It is used to p= ut the audience's mind in the proper/correct thought frame (mindset). I= t does not really change the meaning of the bridi, but it does indicate= to what its content semantically pertains or relates. It can be used a= s a reminder; for example, "Remember when you told me to go to the stor= e? What did you want me to buy?" -> "Concerning the event of my going t= o the store, what did you want me to buy?" -> "sau'e'u lonu mi klama lo= cation zarci keiku do djica lonu vecnu ma mi". It is not as attached to= the bridi as {sera'a}; this is more discursive and somewhat more meta.= The specified topic may endure until the end of the discourse, or the = paragraph, or the bridi; it is explicitly cancelled/negated by "{sau'e'= unai}" followed by a pointer to whichever part of the topic is being co= ncluded in thought and discourse; it is taken to be the case that the p= revious topic is concluded when soever a new one (even what could be co= nsidered a subtopic) is introduced. If Eulojban (more specifically, the= diphthong/digraph "eu") is ever accepted (in Lojban) as valid, .krtisf= ranks. would prefer that this word'search meaning get directly transfer= red to and preserved in "{sau'eu}", with this word unassigned/ likewise= for "{sau'eunai}". Old Data: =09Definition: =09=09topicalizer (sumtcita/discursive; somewhat meta): the following d= iscourse is about/relates to/has topic/concerns=20 =09Notes: =09=09It works rather like UI on a conceptual level, but it is bound to= the following sumti instead (not just any constuct), which is more lik= e a sumtcita syntactically. This word is good for the subject line in a= n email or post. It is used to put the audience's mind in the proper/co= rrect thought frame (mindset). It does not really change the meaning of= the bridi, but it does indicate to what its content semantically perta= ins or relates. It can be used as a reminder; for example, "Remember wh= en you told me to go to the store? What did you want me to buy?" -> "Co= ncerning the event of my going to the store, what did you want me to bu= y?" -> "sau'e'u lonu mi klama location zarci keiku do djica lonu vecnu = ma mi". It is not as attached to the bridi as {sera'a}; this is more di= scursive and somewhat more meta. The specified topic may endure until t= he end of the discourse, or the paragraph, or the bridi; it is explicit= ly cancelled/negated by "{sau'e'unai}" followed by a pointer to whichev= er part of the topic is being concluded in thought and discourse. If Eu= lojban (more specifically, the diphthong/digraph "eu") is ever accepted= (in Lojban) as valid, .krtisfranks. would prefer that this word'search= meaning get directly transferred to and preserved in "{sau'eu}", with = this word unassigned/ likewise for "{sau'eunai}". =09Jargon: =09=09 =09Gloss Keywords: =09=09Word: about subject, In Sense:=20 =09=09Word: about that..., In Sense:=20 =09=09Word: concerning, In Sense:=20 =09=09Word: pertaining to topic, In Sense:=20 =09=09Word: RE:, In Sense:=20 =09=09Word: relating to topic, In Sense:=20 =09=09Word: topicalizer, In Sense:=20 =09Place Keywords: New Data: =09Definition: =09=09topicalizer (sumtcita/discursive; somewhat meta): the following d= iscourse is about/relates to/has topic/concerns=20 =09Notes: =09=09It works rather like UI on a conceptual level, but it is bound to= the following sumti instead (not just any constuct), which is more lik= e a sumtcita syntactically. This word is good for the subject line in a= n email or post; in a conversation with multiple topics (and possibly m= ultiple people responding simultaneously with multiple paragraphs for e= ach topic), it can be used as an organizational tool. It is used to put= the audience's mind in the proper/correct thought frame (mindset). It = does not really change the meaning of the bridi, but it does indicate t= o what its content semantically pertains or relates. It can be used as = a reminder; for example, "Remember when you told me to go to the store?= What did you want me to buy?" -> "Concerning the event of my going to = the store, what did you want me to buy?" -> "sau'e'u lonu mi klama loca= tion zarci keiku do djica lonu vecnu ma mi". It is not as attached to t= he bridi as {sera'a}; this is more discursive and somewhat more meta. T= he specified topic may endure until the end of the discourse, or the pa= ragraph, or the bridi; it is explicitly cancelled/negated by "{sau'e'un= ai}" followed by a pointer to whichever part of the topic is being conc= luded in thought and discourse; it is taken to be the case that the pre= vious topic is concluded when soever a new one (even what could be cons= idered a subtopic) is introduced. If Eulojban (more specifically, the d= iphthong/digraph "eu") is ever accepted (in Lojban) as valid, .krtisfra= nks. would prefer that this word'search meaning get directly transferre= d to and preserved in "{sau'eu}", with this word unassigned/ likewise f= or "{sau'eunai}". =09Jargon: =09=09 =09Gloss Keywords: =09=09Word: about subject, In Sense:=20 =09=09Word: about that..., In Sense:=20 =09=09Word: concerning, In Sense:=20 =09=09Word: pertaining to topic, In Sense:=20 =09=09Word: RE:, In Sense:=20 =09=09Word: relating to topic, In Sense:=20 =09=09Word: topicalizer, In Sense:=20 =09Place Keywords: You can go to to see it.