Received: from [192.168.123.254] (port=44014 helo=jukni.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1hOjOM-0002iR-Vv for jbovlaste-admin@lojban.org; Thu, 09 May 2019 06:47:25 -0700 Received: by jukni.digitalkingdom.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 09 May 2019 06:47:22 -0700 From: "Apache" To: curtis289@att.net Reply-To: webmaster@lojban.org Subject: [jvsw] Definition Edited At Word pavmompazy'utka -- By krtisfranks Date: Thu, 9 May 2019 06:47:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-Id: X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.9 X-Spam_score_int: -28 X-Spam_bar: -- In jbovlaste, the user krtisfranks has edited a definition of "pavmompazy'utka" in the language "English". Differences: 2,2c2,2 < $x_1$ is path-connected to $x_2$ via the (non-gendered/absolute) first-born progeny/primogeniture relation; $x_1$ is the first-born offspring of the first-born offspring of ... the first-born offspring of $x_2$, connected by a graph-path passing through intermediate relations/steps (successive first-born offspring) $x_3$ (ce'o; ordered list). --- > $x_1$ is path-connected to $x_2$ via the (non-gendered/absolute) first-born progeny/primogeniture relation; $x_1$ is the first-born offspring of the first-born offspring of ... the first-born offspring of $x_2$, connected by a graph-path passing through intermediate relations/steps (successive first-born offspring) $x_3$ (ce'o; ordered list), "first" being according to ordering rule $x_4$ (default, as used in this definition: chronological order of birth; restrictions on legitimacy etc. may also be included here). 5,5c5,5 < Will typically be restricted to biological relations (otherwise, what is the point/what does the word mean? Additionally, "{panzi}" is seemingly restrictive in this regard). Append with seltau "{sarcu}" for qualified/conditional primogenture; append with tertau "{cerda}" in order to reference primogeniturial inheritance. --- > Despite the definition saying "first-born" repeatedly, other orderings may be specified by $x_4$, in which case "firstness" is according to the specified rules (and applies to $x_1$ and the members of $x_3$ (but not necessarily $x_2$) each in turn for their generation and lineage (in other words: each of child will be the 'first' child of the previous member, until but not necessarily including $x_2$, where "firstness" is as defined; importantly, the "firstness" relation will not be compared across generations (it renews with each generation) or across lineages - it is a partial ordering). This word's usage will typically be restricted to biological relations (otherwise, what is the point/what does the word mean? Additionally, "{panzi}" is seemingly restrictive in this regard). Append with seltau "{sarcu}" for qualified/conditional primogenture; append with tertau "{cerda}" in order to reference primogeniturial inheritance. Old Data: Definition: $x_1$ is path-connected to $x_2$ via the (non-gendered/absolute) first-born progeny/primogeniture relation; $x_1$ is the first-born offspring of the first-born offspring of ... the first-born offspring of $x_2$, connected by a graph-path passing through intermediate relations/steps (successive first-born offspring) $x_3$ (ce'o; ordered list). Notes: Will typically be restricted to biological relations (otherwise, what is the point/what does the word mean? Additionally, "{panzi}" is seemingly restrictive in this regard). Append with seltau "{sarcu}" for qualified/conditional primogenture; append with tertau "{cerda}" in order to reference primogeniturial inheritance. Jargon: Gloss Keywords: Word: first-born, In Sense: Word: primogeniture, In Sense: Place Keywords: New Data: Definition: $x_1$ is path-connected to $x_2$ via the (non-gendered/absolute) first-born progeny/primogeniture relation; $x_1$ is the first-born offspring of the first-born offspring of ... the first-born offspring of $x_2$, connected by a graph-path passing through intermediate relations/steps (successive first-born offspring) $x_3$ (ce'o; ordered list), "first" being according to ordering rule $x_4$ (default, as used in this definition: chronological order of birth; restrictions on legitimacy etc. may also be included here). Notes: Despite the definition saying "first-born" repeatedly, other orderings may be specified by $x_4$, in which case "firstness" is according to the specified rules (and applies to $x_1$ and the members of $x_3$ (but not necessarily $x_2$) each in turn for their generation and lineage (in other words: each of child will be the 'first' child of the previous member, until but not necessarily including $x_2$, where "firstness" is as defined; importantly, the "firstness" relation will not be compared across generations (it renews with each generation) or across lineages - it is a partial ordering). This word's usage will typically be restricted to biological relations (otherwise, what is the point/what does the word mean? Additionally, "{panzi}" is seemingly restrictive in this regard). Append with seltau "{sarcu}" for qualified/conditional primogenture; append with tertau "{cerda}" in order to reference primogeniturial inheritance. Jargon: Gloss Keywords: Word: first-born, In Sense: Word: primogeniture, In Sense: Place Keywords: You can go to to see it.