Return-path: Envelope-to: jbovlaste-admin@lojban.org Delivery-date: Thu, 22 Jul 2021 09:05:55 -0700 Received: from [192.168.123.254] (port=37346 helo=web.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1m6bCr-0020D8-2A for jbovlaste-admin@lojban.org; Thu, 22 Jul 2021 09:05:55 -0700 Received: by web.digitalkingdom.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 22 Jul 2021 16:05:53 +0000 From: "Apache" To: curtis289@att.net Reply-To: webmaster@lojban.org Subject: [jvsw] Definition Edited At Word ginydze -- By krtisfranks Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2021 16:05:52 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.9 X-Spam_score_int: -28 X-Spam_bar: -- In jbovlaste, the user krtisfranks has edited a definition of "ginydze" in the language "English". Differences: 5,5c5,5 < There is a genetic/biological path of parent-child connections which connects $x_2$ to a familial peer of $x_1$ such that this said peer and $x_1$ are approximately of the same generation (such as siblings or cousins); $x_1$ must belong to the same genetic family as $x_2$ and the said peer. Very similar to "{rirny'utka}", except genetic/biological connection is implied every step along the way, and $x_1$ may actually be a familial peer of the same generation as the actual direct ancestor, rather than necessarily being that direct ancestor themself. Notice that any familial peer of $x_2$ is a potential substitute themself for $x_2$ in this definition, so a symmetry wrt the breadth of specification due to allowance of peers is indeed implied, but need be explicitly allowed by the definition in only one case. --- > There is a genetic/biological path of parent-child connections which connects $x_2$ to a familial peer of $x_1$ such that this said peer and $x_1$ are approximately of the same generation (such as siblings or cousins); $x_1$ must belong to the same genetic family as $x_2$ and the said peer. Very similar to "{rirny'utka}", except genetic/biological connection is implied every step along the way, and $x_1$ may actually be a familial peer of the same generation as the actual direct ancestor, rather than necessarily being that direct ancestor themself. Notice that any familial peer of $x_2$ is a potential substitute themself for $x_2$ in this definition, so a symmetry wrt the breadth of specification due to allowance of peers is indeed implied, but need be explicitly allowed by the definition in only one case. This word is broader than and includes {ginlazdze}; it allows for the possibility of horizontal gene transfer, artificial genetic manipulation, clonal relations, very large organisms (such as certain fungi and aspens) which appear to be multiple organisms, asexual reproduction, and possibly even tissue transplants (not all of which "{ginlazdze}" will include). 11,14c11,14 < Word: biological ancestor, In Sense: < Word: direct ancestor, In Sense: < Word: genetic ancestor, In Sense: < Word: indirect ancestor, In Sense: --- > Word: biological ancestor, In Sense: not necessarily direct > Word: direct ancestor, In Sense: genetic/biological familial/blood > Word: genetic ancestor, In Sense: not necessarily direct > Word: indirect ancestor, In Sense: genetic/biological familial/blood Old Data: Definition: $x_1$ is a genetic/biological ancestor (or familial peer thereof) of $x_2$ by relationship/to degree $x_3$ through/along graph-geodesic within their shared biological family. Notes: There is a genetic/biological path of parent-child connections which connects $x_2$ to a familial peer of $x_1$ such that this said peer and $x_1$ are approximately of the same generation (such as siblings or cousins); $x_1$ must belong to the same genetic family as $x_2$ and the said peer. Very similar to "{rirny'utka}", except genetic/biological connection is implied every step along the way, and $x_1$ may actually be a familial peer of the same generation as the actual direct ancestor, rather than necessarily being that direct ancestor themself. Notice that any familial peer of $x_2$ is a potential substitute themself for $x_2$ in this definition, so a symmetry wrt the breadth of specification due to allowance of peers is indeed implied, but need be explicitly allowed by the definition in only one case. Jargon: Gloss Keywords: Word: biological ancestor, In Sense: Word: direct ancestor, In Sense: Word: genetic ancestor, In Sense: Word: indirect ancestor, In Sense: Place Keywords: New Data: Definition: $x_1$ is a genetic/biological ancestor (or familial peer thereof) of $x_2$ by relationship/to degree $x_3$ through/along graph-geodesic within their shared biological family. Notes: There is a genetic/biological path of parent-child connections which connects $x_2$ to a familial peer of $x_1$ such that this said peer and $x_1$ are approximately of the same generation (such as siblings or cousins); $x_1$ must belong to the same genetic family as $x_2$ and the said peer. Very similar to "{rirny'utka}", except genetic/biological connection is implied every step along the way, and $x_1$ may actually be a familial peer of the same generation as the actual direct ancestor, rather than necessarily being that direct ancestor themself. Notice that any familial peer of $x_2$ is a potential substitute themself for $x_2$ in this definition, so a symmetry wrt the breadth of specification due to allowance of peers is indeed implied, but need be explicitly allowed by the definition in only one case. This word is broader than and includes {ginlazdze}; it allows for the possibility of horizontal gene transfer, artificial genetic manipulation, clonal relations, very large organisms (such as certain fungi and aspens) which appear to be multiple organisms, asexual reproduction, and possibly even tissue transplants (not all of which "{ginlazdze}" will include). Jargon: Gloss Keywords: Word: biological ancestor, In Sense: not necessarily direct Word: direct ancestor, In Sense: genetic/biological familial/blood Word: genetic ancestor, In Sense: not necessarily direct Word: indirect ancestor, In Sense: genetic/biological familial/blood Place Keywords: You can go to to see it.