Return-path: Envelope-to: jbovlaste-admin@lojban.org Delivery-date: Wed, 18 Aug 2021 22:50:37 -0700 Received: from [192.168.123.254] (port=56438 helo=web.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1mGawi-006ud2-7x for jbovlaste-admin@lojban.org; Wed, 18 Aug 2021 22:50:37 -0700 Received: by web.digitalkingdom.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 19 Aug 2021 05:50:31 +0000 From: "Apache" To: curtis289@att.net Reply-To: webmaster@lojban.org Subject: [jvsw] Definition Edited At Word trajije -- By krtisfranks Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 05:50:31 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.3 X-Spam_score_int: -22 X-Spam_bar: -- In jbovlaste, the user krtisfranks has edited a definition of "trajije" in the language "English". Differences: 2,2c2,2 < $x_1=traji_1$ is superlative in property $x_2=traji_2$, the $x_3=traji_3$ extrema (ka; default: ka zmadu), among set/range $x_4=traji_4$, and - moreover - (there exists at least one member of) the $x_5$$^2$th (li; 1 or 2) argument [see note] of this selbri actually has/is/attains said property $x_2$ according to standard $x_6$. --- > $x_1=traji_1$ is superlative in property $x_2=traji_2$, the $x_3=traji_3$ extrema (ka; default: ka zmadu), among set/range $x_4=traji_4$, and – moreover – (there exists at least one member of) the $x_5$$^2$th (li; must be 1 or 2) argument [see note] of this selbri (which) actually has/is/attains said property $x_2$ according to standard $x_6$. Old Data: Definition: $x_1=traji_1$ is superlative in property $x_2=traji_2$, the $x_3=traji_3$ extrema (ka; default: ka zmadu), among set/range $x_4=traji_4$, and - moreover - (there exists at least one member of) the $x_5$$^2$th (li; 1 or 2) argument [see note] of this selbri actually has/is/attains said property $x_2$ according to standard $x_6$. Notes: Being the most extreme in a given property amongst some population does not imply that one actually has that property; for example, the oldest child in a kindergarten class is not necessarily 'old'. For the purposes of $x_5$, whatsoever is submitted to $x_1$ becomes a member of a singleton set and $x_5 = 1$ means that this whole member is drawn as the referent of the clause in the definition which begins with "moreover"; however, for the purposes of $x_5$, the argument of $x_4$, which inherently must be set or similar, is left bare - meaning that at least one of its members, rather than the set as whole (being treated as a member of a singleton), is the referent of the clause in the definition which begins with "moreover"; in fact, if $x_5 = 2$, then the set from which the referent is being drawn is actually the relative complement of Singleton($x_1$) in $x_4$ (see: "{kleivmu}"). So, if $x_1$ is a set or a complicated sumti string composed via connectives, then $x_5 = 1$ constructs a singleton set containing $x_1$ and then the referent drawn is, necessarily, $x_1$; meanwhile, if $x_5 = 2$, then some member of $x_4$ itself, excluding $x_1$ (whatsoever it may be), is the referent which is drawn; for the purposes of $x_5$, $x_1$ and $x_4$ are treated asymmetrically, for the sake of utility and minimal complication. An analog of many of the notes in "{zmaduje}" will apply here (but recall that $x_3$ may be either "{ka} {zmadu}" or "ka {mleca}"!). If negated, then it means "either $x_1$ is not the most extreme (in said property amongst said set) at the $x_3$ end of the scale, or the $((x_5)^{2})$th argument does not attain the said property (by the said standard)", where $x_5$ works as previously described, the "or" is inclusive, and both of the "not"s are the ones specified by the negation (such as "{na}", "{na'e}", "{to'e}", etc.); the negation does not specify which clause is untrue, only that at least one is so. Jargon: Gloss Keywords: Word: least and actually is, In Sense: Word: most and actually is, In Sense: Place Keywords: New Data: Definition: $x_1=traji_1$ is superlative in property $x_2=traji_2$, the $x_3=traji_3$ extrema (ka; default: ka zmadu), among set/range $x_4=traji_4$, and – moreover – (there exists at least one member of) the $x_5$$^2$th (li; must be 1 or 2) argument [see note] of this selbri (which) actually has/is/attains said property $x_2$ according to standard $x_6$. Notes: Being the most extreme in a given property amongst some population does not imply that one actually has that property; for example, the oldest child in a kindergarten class is not necessarily 'old'. For the purposes of $x_5$, whatsoever is submitted to $x_1$ becomes a member of a singleton set and $x_5 = 1$ means that this whole member is drawn as the referent of the clause in the definition which begins with "moreover"; however, for the purposes of $x_5$, the argument of $x_4$, which inherently must be set or similar, is left bare - meaning that at least one of its members, rather than the set as whole (being treated as a member of a singleton), is the referent of the clause in the definition which begins with "moreover"; in fact, if $x_5 = 2$, then the set from which the referent is being drawn is actually the relative complement of Singleton($x_1$) in $x_4$ (see: "{kleivmu}"). So, if $x_1$ is a set or a complicated sumti string composed via connectives, then $x_5 = 1$ constructs a singleton set containing $x_1$ and then the referent drawn is, necessarily, $x_1$; meanwhile, if $x_5 = 2$, then some member of $x_4$ itself, excluding $x_1$ (whatsoever it may be), is the referent which is drawn; for the purposes of $x_5$, $x_1$ and $x_4$ are treated asymmetrically, for the sake of utility and minimal complication. An analog of many of the notes in "{zmaduje}" will apply here (but recall that $x_3$ may be either "{ka} {zmadu}" or "ka {mleca}"!). If negated, then it means "either $x_1$ is not the most extreme (in said property amongst said set) at the $x_3$ end of the scale, or the $((x_5)^{2})$th argument does not attain the said property (by the said standard)", where $x_5$ works as previously described, the "or" is inclusive, and both of the "not"s are the ones specified by the negation (such as "{na}", "{na'e}", "{to'e}", etc.); the negation does not specify which clause is untrue, only that at least one is so. Jargon: Gloss Keywords: Word: least and actually is, In Sense: Word: most and actually is, In Sense: Place Keywords: You can go to to see it.