Received: from localhost ([::1]:49169 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TYMfp-0003LU-DZ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 12:01:29 -0800 Received: from mail-vc0-f181.google.com ([209.85.220.181]:33587) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TYMff-0003LO-Pn for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 12:01:26 -0800 Received: by mail-vc0-f181.google.com with SMTP id n11so8237866vch.40 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 12:01:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=F2KIlu3XjExVv3rQj0ZreQCCfgQmAxfQEJ21lb9+wWs=; b=x/1fYMV/r3aIRixBEw9BYZyMXpFOqWEksm3WHU3MiIDJwAEbATwf7fGcdaUftU2lCq PsYhcsSp0PtYwGKZFGuMQYgux5oSkOLbbXCBC7gUrSpEC7zSNeymdnvwjlTD3b8O4ZFh FwXO9huUqxLahBVBYB5z9WMR5ep4c7ut55fDPCY/g2mx2+HxjEfi3SQiKa9Gxf3+x6Eo ugMAXv4Qu/2JY7xRIp6LIx/tkGMR2v8Ptve8JW9kABVAktauGQsiMB5OKkocwFBsc2pd jxXgZilzceb4/7W6m/QaZS/VKTGDkefxCuiswJQQnC/uNM6q6l3BOweW5Zd/tr1E+0Jr /pHw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.249.201 with SMTP id yw9mr26444114vec.10.1352809820761; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 04:30:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.59.5.74 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 04:30:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4924557.nHUln8INZG@caracal> References: <1386646.ZUz1NGUVUn@caracal> <4924557.nHUln8INZG@caracal> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 07:30:20 -0500 Message-ID: From: Michael Turniansky To: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Subject: Re: [jbovlaste] Is mathematical terminology jargon? X-BeenThere: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: jbovlaste@lojban.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5686892419709417987==" Errors-To: jbovlaste-bounces@lojban.org --===============5686892419709417987== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bacc07ed0add704ce5f9457 --047d7bacc07ed0add704ce5f9457 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 You are asserting that a jimte is necessarily included in a seljimte. I don't agree. Nor would I say a korbi is necessarily included in a selkoi / terkoi --gejyspa On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 1:49 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Monday, November 05, 2012 14:12:47 Michael Turniansky wrote: > > Yes, it's jargon, IMHO. > > > > As for limit in the mathematical sense: > > > > fancyjimte: j1 is the limit of function f1=j2 from domain f2=j3 to > > range f3 (add fa'a piece if you want to specify direction of the limit) > > "limit" in the mathematical sense isn't "jimte"; that's "bound". A > function is > not necessarily bounded by its limit. For instance, sin(x)/x has a limit > of 0 > as x goes to infinity, but takes values both above and below 0. > > For "boundary", I'd say "pilka" or "skapi". An unbounded set can have a > boundary. > > Pierre > -- > .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do > .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga > .icu'u la ma'atman. > > > _______________________________________________ > jbovlaste mailing list > jbovlaste@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/jbovlaste > --047d7bacc07ed0add704ce5f9457 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=C2=A0 You are asserting that a jimte is necessarily inclu= ded in a seljimte. =C2=A0I don't agree. =C2=A0Nor =C2=A0would I say a k= orbi is necessarily included in a selkoi / terkoi
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 --gejyspa

On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 1:49 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>= wrote:
On Monday, November 05, 2012 14:12:47 Michael Turniansky = wrote:
> =C2=A0 Yes, it's jargon, IMHO.
>
> =C2=A0 As for limit in the mathematical sense:
>
> =C2=A0 fancyjimte: j1 is the limit of =C2=A0function f1=3Dj2 =C2=A0fro= m domain f2=3Dj3 to
> range f3 (add fa'a piece if you want to specify direction of the l= imit)

"limit" in the mathematical sense isn't "jimte&quo= t;; that's "bound". A function is
not necessarily bounded by its limit. For instance, sin(x)/x has a limit of= 0
as x goes to infinity, but takes values both above and below 0.

For "boundary", I'd say "pilka" or "skapi"= ;. An unbounded set can have a
boundary.

Pierre
--
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.ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga
.icu'u la ma'atman.


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