Received: from localhost ([::1]:51192 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Tdejx-0000bT-Go; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 02:19:38 -0800 Received: from mail-la0-f53.google.com ([209.85.215.53]:48864) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Td5tb-0001IW-0D for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:07:19 -0800 Received: by mail-la0-f53.google.com with SMTP id w12so8627354lag.40 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:07:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=VKsr6dsBvsnJyIAlKyfFTEQpr4bE0msChDCpKeTPrpI=; b=R4T1lOQuAsyLljHbtQGStHKXVu2z8b3MG69nKXeWnXt8TjT/X6WMTeNKIycPmXchYo 9OrUdGGR9Yb+Hv0BBR/bEnpujhI2z0N7KGEo2WWtVn6XQLov9e8zrB8UrXPftjkiQmsU JD2ATBKJAElgOTSKQZYzAZMzl8hIQSsyloz2b74+ByxRZQrZFqchDvgNMfJ/d4h+8eez AQfdUCTqTqxhkdisV7e4E9I1mBxI32C8uUevKkZ9XnGuUw9I2lVI8sBJFx5z7OIMEJgO ODo7B6HXdSmuMSezJIPBgXXQ1/jBB1GJILhYZZwuy9FzVnlGnvFtvPvXjr68OdxQPYNX D0og== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.113.225 with SMTP id jb1mr12287718lab.23.1353964026546; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:07:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.163.67 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:07:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1386646.ZUz1NGUVUn@caracal> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:07:06 -0500 Message-ID: From: Ian Johnson To: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Subject: Re: [jbovlaste] Is mathematical terminology jargon? X-BeenThere: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: jbovlaste@lojban.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3159910384086779387==" Errors-To: jbovlaste-bounces@lojban.org --===============3159910384086779387== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0408d91bd74a1b04cf6c5080 --f46d0408d91bd74a1b04cf6c5080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That use of {jimte} is outright wrong, in that it is entirely inconsistent for something like x_n =3D (-1)^n/n where 0 is not a bound in any sense and yet is the limit of the sequence. This is also jargon, and should be treated as such. {jimte} when used in mathematics should be for things like "boundary of a topological space" mu'o mi'e la latro'a On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Michael Turniansky w= rote: > Yes, it's jargon, IMHO. > > As for limit in the mathematical sense: > > fancyjimte: j1 is the limit of function f1=3Dj2 from domain f2=3Dj3 t= o > range f3 (add fa'a piece if you want to specify direction of the limit) > --gejyspa > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > >> I'm thinking of adding the word "kadlago" (x1 is a c=E0dl=E0g function f= rom >> domain >> x2 to range x3, where the domain and range have topologies such that it >> makes >> sense). "c=E0dl=E0g" is a French acronym which looks strange even in Fre= nch, >> but >> has been adopted into various languages. Should I mark it as jargon? >> >> Also, what's the word for "limit" in the mathematical sense? >> >> Pierre >> -- >> I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> jbovlaste mailing list >> jbovlaste@lojban.org >> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/jbovlaste >> > > > _______________________________________________ > jbovlaste mailing list > jbovlaste@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/jbovlaste > > --f46d0408d91bd74a1b04cf6c5080 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That use of {jimte} is outright wrong, in that it is entirely inconsistent = for something like x_n =3D (-1)^n/n where 0 is not a bound in any sense and= yet is the limit of the sequence. This is also jargon, and should be treat= ed as such. {jimte} when used in mathematics should be for things like &quo= t;boundary of a topological space"

mu'o mi'e la latro'a

On M= on, Nov 5, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
=A0 Yes, it's jargon, I= MHO.=A0

=A0 As for limit in the mathematical sense:

=A0 fancyjimte: j1 is the limit of =A0function f1=3Dj2 =A0from d= omain f2=3Dj3 to range f3 (add fa'a piece if you want to specify direct= ion of the limit)
=A0 =A0 =A0 --gejyspa

=
On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 3:17 PM, = Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
I'm thinking of adding the word "ka= dlago" (x1 is a c=E0dl=E0g function from domain
x2 to range x3, where the domain and range have topologies such that it mak= es
sense). "c=E0dl=E0g" is a French acronym which looks strange even= in French, but
has been adopted into various languages. Should I mark it as jargon?

Also, what's the word for "limit" in the mathematical sense?<= br>
Pierre
--
I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wal= es.


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