Received: from localhost ([::1]:39567 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Tf0TH-0007hH-JY; Sat, 01 Dec 2012 19:43:59 -0800 Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.120]:36575) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Tf0TA-0007hB-So for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Sat, 01 Dec 2012 19:43:57 -0800 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=OOOlLFmB c=1 sm=0 a=sqYj6zCFaLTNQ95sbP+eeQ==:17 a=W3V8cEvdJLQA:10 a=MLQ-ixcEEswA:10 a=So9KD_FNS4sA:10 a=Yr05hP5UdKEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=JNFw9bs7AAAA:8 a=FC-GPxTyHsQA:10 a=zv8S6lOCnIk__9an8cwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=sqYj6zCFaLTNQ95sbP+eeQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Authenticated-User: X-Originating-IP: 69.132.98.107 Received: from [69.132.98.107] ([69.132.98.107:55850] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 95/14-21565-27ECAB05; Sun, 02 Dec 2012 03:43:46 +0000 Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E4715659 for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2012 22:43:46 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2012 22:43:47 -0500 Message-ID: <1804243.lh07qoYVdf@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-32-generic; KDE/4.8.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <1386646.ZUz1NGUVUn@caracal> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Subject: Re: [jbovlaste] Is mathematical terminology jargon? X-BeenThere: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: jbovlaste@lojban.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: jbovlaste-bounces@lojban.org On Thursday, November 29, 2012 09:51:09 Michael Turniansky wrote: > Actually, I never heard of the "limit superior" and "limit inferior" > before. I had only heard of the other, and I understand that it may cross > it several times. But that doesn't change the fact that it gets > progressively closer to it, and it ultimately serves as a extreme in that > sense. OTOH, I proposed a lujvo, and a jargon one at that, so it can have > any meaning attached to it we want. I think that the place structure of the word for "limit" should be "x1 is the limit of x2 approaching x3 in direction x4". And I still think it is not a jimte, and agree that the limits inferior and superior are jimte. As to jargon, math terminology is more apt to be used outside the jargon field than, say, Pokemon terminology, so we should be more careful not to make math terms polysemous. The fact that natlangs use such terms as "ring" and "filter" in math to mean something completely different from the ordinary meaning should not excuse us doing the same in Lojban. Pierre -- The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain. _______________________________________________ jbovlaste mailing list jbovlaste@lojban.org http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/jbovlaste