Received: from localhost ([::1]:55009 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TqrMx-0002fp-K0; Thu, 03 Jan 2013 12:26:27 -0800 Received: from mail-vc0-f174.google.com ([209.85.220.174]:35084) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TqrMm-0002fc-1T for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Thu, 03 Jan 2013 12:26:25 -0800 Received: by mail-vc0-f174.google.com with SMTP id d16so15557272vcd.19 for ; Thu, 03 Jan 2013 12:26:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=NNKmcXIRxCrZFfl1vZjMJLiGS5VxFjtolGFzZPYf41s=; b=qgJxDBQYOzHgOfm63Z9r0+jLEYsLE652NAARWUcbgQrhkGBPQ0yHSe5p+JoNmmtGJP zWxg/FGFZB0KlxZy8eAwXwfN7csVap/y8MLp99ynPLyhOTGM2DyGBjmFTcMQslRcps+k UgOJwbQAd/ndKHOUBJU2aK9+tYG/FXRe6Tt+8H/IW37kg+wiPpRB4oJ8mYMHSQztJesD 1iVIlCEG5hd54HNBHrQp/MU+Sc063j2ZcDHAJnDzIzofiISdWtQTC5QnCLWgdziQpH3F bJ39q+Jv/6FLuFOUZE98Yfd3DM5kyofEc8pQzoOIuy+3hC/ZOZ2xXTWteNgVdUMl1/Aq OGgg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.36.19 with SMTP id m19mr64021924vdj.33.1357244769215; Thu, 03 Jan 2013 12:26:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.13.197 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 12:26:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130103201946.GA18038@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> References: <20130103201946.GA18038@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 15:26:09 -0500 Message-ID: From: Ian Johnson To: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Subject: Re: [jbovlaste] [eitanp32@gmail.com: {banro} gets default sense of "grow"; conflicting with some lujvo] X-BeenThere: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: jbovlaste@lojban.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3883529219504949841==" Errors-To: jbovlaste-bounces@lojban.org --===============3883529219504949841== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307abeb957a6ce04d2682ce0 --20cf307abeb957a6ce04d2682ce0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Seems to me that {banro} is {barda zenba}, with all the possible vagueness that barda2/barda3 introduce, and that {brabi'o} is superfluous. mi'e la latro'a mu'o On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Robin Lee Powell < rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > I agree this seems a bit wonky; someone should feel free to suggest > a fix. > > -Robin > > ----- Forwarded message from Eitan Postavsky ----- > > Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 13:09:20 -0500 > From: Eitan Postavsky > To: rt-jvs@lojban.org > Subject: {banro} gets default sense of "grow"; conflicting with some lujvo > > http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/natlang/en/grow > As you can see, there is a default sense and three specialized senses. It > seems to me that {banro} means "grow" in the sense "increase in size", but > that is disturbingly similar to {brabi'o}'s "become larger". I don't know. > The only difference I can see between {brabi'o} and {banro} is what places > they come with, and it's not very nice to say "only under certain > conditions and previous size not implied" in {brabi'o}'s gloss. > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > -- > http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. > .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u .e > lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e > lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni > li'u > > _______________________________________________ > jbovlaste mailing list > jbovlaste@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/jbovlaste > --20cf307abeb957a6ce04d2682ce0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Seems to me that {banro} is {barda zenba}, with all the possible vagueness = that barda2/barda3 introduce, and that {brabi'o} is superfluous.
mi'e la latro'a mu'o

On Thu,= Jan 3, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingd= om.org> wrote:
I agree this seems a bit wonky; someone shou= ld feel free to suggest
a fix.

-Robin

----- Forwarded message from Eitan Postavsky <eitanp32@gmail.com> -----

Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 13:09:20 -0500
From: Eitan Postavsky <eitanp32@gm= ail.com>
To: rt-jvs@lojban.org
Subject: {banro} gets default sense of "grow"; conflicting with s= ome lujvo

h= ttp://jbovlaste.lojban.org/natlang/en/grow
As you can see, there is a default sense and three specialized senses. It seems to me that {banro} means "grow" in the sense "increase= in size", but
that is disturbingly similar to {brabi'o}'s "become larger&quo= t;. I don't know.
The only difference I can see between {brabi'o} and {banro} is what pla= ces
they come with, and it's not very nice to say "only under certain<= br> conditions and previous size not implied" in {brabi'o}'s gloss= .

----- End forwarded message -----

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