Received: from localhost ([::1]:55474 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Tqtfo-0003Sh-18; Thu, 03 Jan 2013 14:54:04 -0800 Received: from mail-vc0-f178.google.com ([209.85.220.178]:56375) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Tqtfc-0003Sc-I0 for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Thu, 03 Jan 2013 14:54:02 -0800 Received: by mail-vc0-f178.google.com with SMTP id l6so2142954vcl.9 for ; Thu, 03 Jan 2013 14:53:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=OK581BAJEORPb+U63Hiuwvr182euqK8h4tF38Ryc8bs=; b=J3TrDcWH04lnUJ8ljBWWrLabLFACGZezeS5FanM5gh3D1RRVmntnbo+6lq3ovZPFtA J1HmtRNkQFpzPQtDj24jq7DM6w8ThCiR2h0boMuVNUqHhNSM6TCfCb1nbb7EzQxEuBWt cibLrukE3zACnJVD940xjmOhhdc9MTjxfw8eIq/o+qMAtWjCQ5jc8m+gD16FOQ0qDHZa 5km01BYH93hWXLsreCueEmRPu10NE5dyxvWY0vrP3qMF9nw4N03uiii9HHEHHZpuOJdE FX7XsLE8JKogv5pJTMmEe5XN7cgaPlGTEBGRlPdUN0w4wRd4EnjzwOjwMf1GrDy9dSOB XSIA== Received: by 10.58.233.210 with SMTP id ty18mr63852339vec.46.1357253625742; Thu, 03 Jan 2013 14:53:45 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.75.232 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 14:53:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20130103201946.GA18038@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> From: MorphemeAddict Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 17:53:15 -0500 Message-ID: To: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Subject: Re: [jbovlaste] [eitanp32@gmail.com: {banro} gets default sense of "grow"; conflicting with some lujvo] X-BeenThere: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: jbovlaste@lojban.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5669632310864865360==" Errors-To: jbovlaste-bounces@lojban.org --===============5669632310864865360== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0102ee7c3b843e04d26a3c86 --089e0102ee7c3b843e04d26a3c86 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Ian Johnson wrote: > Seems to me that {banro} is {barda zenba}, with all the possible vagueness > that barda2/barda3 introduce, and that {brabi'o} is superfluous. > Or that {banro} is superfluous. stevo > > mi'e la latro'a mu'o > > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Robin Lee Powell < > rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > >> I agree this seems a bit wonky; someone should feel free to suggest >> a fix. >> >> -Robin >> >> ----- Forwarded message from Eitan Postavsky ----- >> >> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 13:09:20 -0500 >> From: Eitan Postavsky >> To: rt-jvs@lojban.org >> Subject: {banro} gets default sense of "grow"; conflicting with some lujvo >> >> http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/natlang/en/grow >> As you can see, there is a default sense and three specialized senses. It >> seems to me that {banro} means "grow" in the sense "increase in size", but >> that is disturbingly similar to {brabi'o}'s "become larger". I don't know. >> The only difference I can see between {brabi'o} and {banro} is what places >> they come with, and it's not very nice to say "only under certain >> conditions and previous size not implied" in {brabi'o}'s gloss. >> >> ----- End forwarded message ----- >> >> -- >> http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. >> .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u .e >> lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e >> lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni >> li'u >> >> _______________________________________________ >> jbovlaste mailing list >> jbovlaste@lojban.org >> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/jbovlaste >> > > > _______________________________________________ > jbovlaste mailing list > jbovlaste@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/jbovlaste > > --089e0102ee7c3b843e04d26a3c86 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Ian John= son <blindbravado@gmail.com> wrote:
Seems to me that {banro} is {barda zenba}, with all the possible vagueness = that barda2/barda3 introduce, and that {brabi'o} is superfluous.

Or that {banro} is superfluous.=C2=A0

stevo
=C2=A0
<= br>mi'e la latro'a mu'o
=

On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digit= alkingdom.org> wrote:
I agree this seems a bit wonky; someone shou= ld feel free to suggest
a fix.

-Robin

----- Forwarded message from Eitan Postavsky <eitanp32@gmail.com> -----

Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 13:09:20 -0500
From: Eitan Postavsky <eitanp32@gmail.com>
To: rt-jvs@lojban.or= g
Subject: {banro} gets default sense of "grow"; conflicting with s= ome lujvo

h= ttp://jbovlaste.lojban.org/natlang/en/grow
As you can see, there is a default sense and three specialized senses. It seems to me that {banro} means "grow" in the sense "increase= in size", but
that is disturbingly similar to {brabi'o}'s "become larger&quo= t;. I don't know.
The only difference I can see between {brabi'o} and {banro} is what pla= ces
they come with, and it's not very nice to say "only under certain<= br> conditions and previous size not implied" in {brabi'o}'s gloss= .

----- End forwarded message -----

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