Received: from localhost ([::1]:54858 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Tsowi-0003Wc-Vq; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 22:15:29 -0800 Received: from mail-vb0-f51.google.com ([209.85.212.51]:56823) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TsowW-0003VP-MA for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 22:15:26 -0800 Received: by mail-vb0-f51.google.com with SMTP id fq11so1250483vbb.10 for ; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 22:15:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=L+2VpzJpkAmnqUawi1HRglFaj095H3/Xt5UUDIWU4EQ=; b=kZFVz7EAJj+Rh8rlhZ6kYiv03u9L9/44CDRqv+8x15VvIPFW5EyrKFXdgm25Ovxric Sv/h/LCM0RY1egq1Sh/uFjCKXX6UzewJsj4gruL9OhiahKW3lCIMw/cJmYaYqs125zHb 77Xk7s9FCpktGyVzzMriLyCxeV4I8MP3IZA0IYPATQVU7wRbm8Zw/+hqCWQfakylYO6V Q49gRu0JKGUStFU9xr2kZnPki3RjzTbJHvNfwX0kkObe41vZghLRQ9DPaWC7m6mliecG DMQ50+DOOpFUmiSWTdXBa37nxSl7GuQv8SOluDyFFCX3H3LqkCjZatJzXgLeznF4pqLV muNA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.156.40 with SMTP id wb8mr77423381vdb.39.1357712110357; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 22:15:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.196.89 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 22:15:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <11508866.8VCYHEEGkh@caracal> <2102027.uLnfKfkkaA@caracal> Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 23:15:10 -0700 Message-ID: From: Jonathan Jones To: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Subject: Re: [jbovlaste] diabetes X-BeenThere: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: jbovlaste@lojban.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9024025436065731328==" Errors-To: jbovlaste-bounces@lojban.org --===============9024025436065731328== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec53aedb40b8e6c04d2d4fcdd --bcaec53aedb40b8e6c04d2d4fcdd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Robert Prije wrote: > Sorry, newbie jbovlaste member interjection here. Wouldn't a fu'ivla be > better placed for this sort of thing? Diabetes is a pretty well-known > cross-cultural word. Why not use a fu'ivla which would sound familiar to > everyone everywhere? > Personally I just hate fu'ivla in general. I avoid using or making them like the plague. I guess I'm kind of like the French in that regard- they hate using English words for things and make their own instead (at least, the official language people do- I can't speak for the actual French themselves). I honestly think we can describe anything using purely Lojban vocabulary, and further, I think we /should/. > Or just leave it as a cmene? la .dai,abitis. seems pretty usable to me. > Unless for some reason we want a selbri place structure for this thing? > > Of course, as I said, I'm a newbie, so I'm missing a ton of context on how > this group thinks about these sorts of things. Apologies. > > > > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:14 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > >> On Monday, January 07, 2013 22:01:21 Jonathan Jones wrote: >> > I only know of two types of diabetes: the broken pancreas type (Type I), >> > and the not responding properly type (Type II). >> >> There's a third type, gestational diabetes. >> >> On Tuesday, January 08, 2013 07:10:16 Mark E. Shoulson wrote: >> > Actually, I was thinking of going with the etymology, though maybe not >> > all of it. Something like {titpincyterbi'a} or maybe better without the >> > -ter-. This is diabetes mellitus and not diabetes insipidus. >> >> Sounds good. For a name, I'd say "titpinc". >> >> Pierre >> -- >> .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do >> .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga >> .icu'u la ma'atman. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> jbovlaste mailing list >> jbovlaste@lojban.org >> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/jbovlaste >> > > > _______________________________________________ > jbovlaste mailing list > jbovlaste@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/jbovlaste > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --bcaec53aedb40b8e6c04d2d4fcdd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Robert Prije <ro= b@bobturf.org> wrote:
Sorry, newbie jbovlaste member interjection here. Wouldn&#= 39;t a fu'ivla be better placed for this sort of thing? Diabetes is a p= retty well-known cross-cultural word. Why not use a fu'ivla which would= sound familiar to everyone everywhere?

Personally I just hate fu'ivla in general. I avoi= d using or making them like the plague. I guess I'm kind of like the Fr= ench in that regard- they hate using English words for things and make thei= r own instead (at least, the official language people do- I can't speak= for the actual French themselves).

I honestly think we can describe anything using purely Lojban vocabular= y, and further, I think we /should/.
=A0
Or just leave it as a cmene? la .dai,abitis. seems pretty usable= to me. Unless for some reason we want a selbri place structure for this th= ing?

Of course, as I said, I'm a newbie, so I&= #39;m missing a ton of context on how this group thinks about these sorts o= f things. Apologies.



On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:14= PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:
On Monday, January 07, 2013 22:01:21 Jo= nathan Jones wrote:
> I only know of two types of diabetes: the broken pancreas type (Type I= ),
> and the not responding properly type (Type II).

There's a third type, gestational diabetes.

On Tuesday, January 08, 2013 07:10:16 Mark E. Shoulson wrote:
> Actually, I was thinking of going with the etymology, though maybe not=
> all of it. =A0Something like {titpincyterbi'a} or maybe better wit= hout the
> -ter-. =A0This is diabetes mellitus and not diabetes insipidus.

Sounds good. For a name, I'd say "titpinc".

Pierre
--
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.ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga
.icu'u la ma'atman.


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