Received: from localhost ([::1]:58568 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Tt6xB-0002oV-OK; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 17:29:09 -0800 Received: from mail-vb0-f53.google.com ([209.85.212.53]:55316) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Tt6x0-0002oE-Cj for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 17:29:06 -0800 Received: by mail-vb0-f53.google.com with SMTP id b23so11731vbz.40 for ; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 17:28:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=2hW4tYsvP4/1Sm+FrsHSE2lW/mEszS2OxxXIRw9GUKc=; b=Ycn5GYIvKe555Rlpk/b5FKJU4Zv/otsxjAE1E8yZI406H/7DkAp/rqeMxvPEbZDT0k gBerR+vs9yK9trPrdvkuyio8rTSJ+ExE92lZoGM4+a5e45hfljQtCY6eyLSH7sGH42/c DM0BODVmBJNv8sTRDs4XXdsCO4Z86+D62HIo5Uq7bdZZtsYGtUFhMDXgb1+/eLTGW/+S oHmvkqYvLu6T0xknPZT9n3in2/lE7dVZtzbZF7A7+DtPgIz5Mn3semvvVmLpp0fIzfmI cqbLuHuerhnJhyhgbJIzW95P+Hlz/7gLVfzOmOz+yLZ5wWp8Pac37rRQLUTPuS2/4dOW 47EQ== Received: by 10.52.64.131 with SMTP id o3mr76778516vds.116.1357781331920; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 17:28:51 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.249.195 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 17:28:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <64658573.MlWjTey5Wk@caracal> References: <11508866.8VCYHEEGkh@caracal> <2102027.uLnfKfkkaA@caracal> <64658573.MlWjTey5Wk@caracal> From: "Sara E. Foster" Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:28:30 +0800 Message-ID: To: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam_score: 1.2 X-Spam_score_int: 12 X-Spam_bar: + X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "stodi.digitalkingdom.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: what's wrong with {sakybi'a} or {sakpincybi'a} (don't know if they parse like that, my lojban has been dormant for quite long) ? i see the point that in biological terminology for example, the "latin/greek" words are used, but for a common and easily described disease like that, i don't see a point of using a fu'ivla. [...] Content analysis details: (1.2 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (sarefo[at]googlemail.com) 0.0 DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED No valid author signature, adsp_override is CUSTOM_MED -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature 1.2 NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED ADSP custom_med hit, and not from a mailing list Subject: Re: [jbovlaste] diabetes X-BeenThere: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: jbovlaste@lojban.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3042224878571598149==" Errors-To: jbovlaste-bounces@lojban.org --===============3042224878571598149== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307ac797f8c5b104d2e51950 --20cf307ac797f8c5b104d2e51950 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable what's wrong with {sakybi'a} or {sakpincybi'a} (don't know if they parse like that, my lojban has been dormant for quite long) ? i see the point that in biological terminology for example, the "latin/greek" words are used, but for a common and easily described disease like that, i don't see a point of using a fu'ivla. mi'e cirzgamanti On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:43 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Wednesday, January 09, 2013 13:29:37 Robert Prije wrote: > > Sorry, newbie jbovlaste member interjection here. Wouldn't a fu'ivla be > > better placed for this sort of thing? Diabetes is a pretty well-known > > cross-cultural word. Why not use a fu'ivla which would sound familiar t= o > > everyone everywhere? > > Wikipedia cross-language links: > af:suikersiekte, da:sukkersyge, fo:sukursj=C3=BAka, is:sykurs=C3=BDki > cy:clefyd y siwgr > gu:=E0=AA=AE=E0=AA=A7=E0=AB=81=E0=AA=AA=E0=AB=8D=E0=AA=B0=E0=AA=AE=E0=AB= =87=E0=AA=B9 (madhuprameha), ne:=E0=A4=AE=E0=A4=A7=E0=A5=81=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5= =87=E0=A4=B9 (madhumeha), mr:=E0=A4=AE=E0=A4=A7=E0=A5=81=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=87= =E0=A4=B9, sa:=E0=A4=AE=E0=A4=A7=E0=A5=81=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=87=E0=A4=B9=E0=A4= =83 > os:=D0=A1=C3=A6=D0=BA=C3=A6=D1=80=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B7 (s=C3=A6k=C3=A6rniz),= fa:=D9=85=D8=B1=D8=B6 =D9=82=D9=86 > he:=D7=A1=D7=95=D7=9B=D7=A8=D7=AA (sukeret, if I read the tiny dots right= ), ar:=D8=A7=D9=84=D8=B3=D9=83=D8=B1=D9=8A > > > Or just leave it as a cmene? la .dai,abitis. seems pretty usable to me. > > Unless for some reason we want a selbri place structure for this thing? > > The word is of Greek origin, and the English pronunciation is > idiosyncratic. A > cmene can go in x3 of bilma (like "ko'a bilma lo nu senci kei la zuk=C3= =A1m", > "he > is sick with a cold, whose symptom is sneezing"); a brivla would substitu= te > for "bilma" and have a place structure "x1 has diabetes with symptoms x2"= . > > Pierre > -- > .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do > .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga > .icu'u la ma'atman. > > > _______________________________________________ > jbovlaste mailing list > jbovlaste@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/jbovlaste > --20cf307ac797f8c5b104d2e51950 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
what's wrong with {sakybi'a} or {sakpincybi'a}= (don't know if they parse like that, my lojban has been dormant for qu= ite long) ? i see the point that in biological terminology for example, the= "latin/greek" words are used, but for a common and easily descri= bed disease like that, i don't see a point of using a fu'ivla.

mi'e cirzgamanti


On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:43 AM, Pi= erre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:
On Wednesday, January 09, = 2013 13:29:37 Robert Prije wrote:
> Sorry, newbie jbovlaste member interjection here. Wouldn't a fu= 9;ivla be
> better placed for this sort of thing? Diabetes is a pretty well-known<= br> > cross-cultural word. Why not use a fu'ivla which would sound famil= iar to
> everyone everywhere?

Wikipedia cross-language links:
af:suikersiekte, da:sukkersyge, fo:sukursj=C3=BAka, is:sykurs=C3=BDki
cy:clefyd y siwgr
gu:=E0=AA=AE=E0=AA=A7=E0=AB=81=E0=AA=AA=E0=AB=8D=E0=AA=B0=E0=AA=AE=E0=AB=87= =E0=AA=B9 (madhuprameha), ne:=E0=A4=AE=E0=A4=A7=E0=A5=81=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=87= =E0=A4=B9 (madhumeha), mr:=E0=A4=AE=E0=A4=A7=E0=A5=81=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=87=E0= =A4=B9, sa:=E0=A4=AE=E0=A4=A7=E0=A5=81=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=87=E0=A4=B9=E0=A4=83<= br> os:=D0=A1=C3=A6=D0=BA=C3=A6=D1=80=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B7 (s=C3=A6k=C3=A6rniz), f= a:=D9=85=D8=B1=D8=B6 =D9=82=D9=86
he:=D7=A1=D7=95=D7=9B=D7=A8=D7=AA (sukeret, if I read the tiny dots right),= ar:=D8=A7=D9=84=D8=B3=D9=83=D8=B1=D9=8A

> Or just leave it as a cmene? la .dai,abitis. seems pretty usable to me= .
> Unless for some reason we want a selbri place structure for this thing= ?

The word is of Greek origin, and the English pronunciation is idiosyn= cratic. A
cmene can go in x3 of bilma (like "ko'a bilma lo nu senci kei la z= uk=C3=A1m", "he
is sick with a cold, whose symptom is sneezing"); a brivla would subst= itute
for "bilma" and have a place structure "x1 has diabetes with= symptoms x2".

Pierre
--
.i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do
.ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga
.icu'u la ma'atman.


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