Received: from localhost ([::1]:55708 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TxTrr-0007Z9-Jf; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 18:45:43 -0800 Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.120]:55564) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TxTrl-0007Z0-HL for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 18:45:42 -0800 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=acPjbGUt c=1 sm=0 a=sqYj6zCFaLTNQ95sbP+eeQ==:17 a=W3V8cEvdJLQA:10 a=JFaJvMoBDvMA:10 a=ngmzhCly62MA:10 a=Yr05hP5UdKEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=JNFw9bs7AAAA:8 a=M2DoeeCd4RYA:10 a=PEWfQntjjVifOE-xo-IA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=sqYj6zCFaLTNQ95sbP+eeQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Authenticated-User: X-Originating-IP: 69.132.98.107 Received: from [69.132.98.107] ([69.132.98.107:35834] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 23/8A-26261-A4DFDF05; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 02:45:31 +0000 Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F43213F1 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 21:45:30 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 21:45:25 -0500 Message-ID: <1681207.VpQKIQHZAD@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-35-generic; KDE/4.8.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <3185684.p7HcNfvyA7@caracal> <1383085.hAMHNW2WL5@caracal> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Subject: Re: [jbovlaste] SNP, RFLP, allele X-BeenThere: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: jbovlaste@lojban.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: jbovlaste-bounces@lojban.org On Monday, January 21, 2013 13:20:22 Austin Thomas wrote: > You also keep using allele improperly. An SNP is not an allele, it might > possibly define an allele but allele does not refer specifically to single > base pairs, at least not in any context that I am aware of. An allele can > be non-coding though like is usually the case with VNTRs in which diffirent > repeats are reffered to as different alleles. When talking about a coding > sequence Allele refers to the entire protein encoding sequence. Allele is > often used to refer to multiple protein encoding genes that all effect one > phenotype although I am not sure that all molecular geneticists would agree > with that usage but traditionally it was accepted. I thought I saw someone at 23andMe talking about alleles of a SNP, but checking a few reports I see they talk about versions of a SNP. I don't see why we couldn't use the same Lojban word for "allele (of a gene)" and "version (of a SNP)". (Version of a program is something different: velfarvi.) > Personally I think ginpanra could work but note that these are homologues > not identical strands, alleles are different sequences. I'd say that one allele of a gene cu ginpanra another allele of the same gene. How would you say the relation between an allele and a gene? Pierre -- The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain. _______________________________________________ jbovlaste mailing list jbovlaste@lojban.org http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/jbovlaste