Received: from localhost ([::1]:45121 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TybJq-0005Kb-PT; Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:55:14 -0800 Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.120]:56098) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TybJk-0005KO-9m for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:55:12 -0800 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=XL2yuHdE c=1 sm=0 a=sqYj6zCFaLTNQ95sbP+eeQ==:17 a=W3V8cEvdJLQA:10 a=JFaJvMoBDvMA:10 a=93UUt2rjulAA:10 a=Yr05hP5UdKEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=JNFw9bs7AAAA:8 a=lpRPLfts4U0A:10 a=PQejIye_TVGCCLD3DJQA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=sqYj6zCFaLTNQ95sbP+eeQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Authenticated-User: X-Originating-IP: 69.132.98.107 Received: from [69.132.98.107] ([69.132.98.107:58745] helo=leopard.ixazon.lan) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id AD/CF-25887-62012015; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 04:55:02 +0000 Received: from caracal.localnet (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:8:42:c422:8f84:3103:2dbd]) by leopard.ixazon.lan (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F6C7933 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:54:59 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:54:55 -0500 Message-ID: <2035173.JDsqtSLb3n@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-35-generic; KDE/4.8.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Subject: Re: [jbovlaste] berbere, berberi X-BeenThere: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: jbovlaste@lojban.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: jbovlaste-bounces@lojban.org On Thursday, January 24, 2013 21:06:43 Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > Is it allowed to have several fui'vla that differ in the ending only? What > about rafsi for them then? You can't make a rafsi for "berbere" by dropping the final vowel, because t= hat = would mean "north-north" (as in "bersunberberberti", which is N5=B037'30'E)= . So = having different words "berbere", "berbero", and "berberi" is not a problem. You can't make a rafsi for "skalduna" (Basque) by dropping the final vowel = and = put it at the start of a lujvo, because the resulting word (e.g. = "*skaldunymapku") is a lujvo-like slinku'i. But you can put such a rafsi in = the middle of a word, as long as there is 'y' both before and after it. You can make a rafsi for all type-3 fu'ivla, and various others, that end i= n a = single vowel by dropping it. So you can say "glaukyne'o", "bakrtyjipcyna'i" = (though Buffalo wings have nothing to do with buffaloes), or "klitykolmba". And as in the PEG, you can make a lujvo from all of the above fu'ivla by = adding "'y" to them and following with a rafsi. Pierre -- = Jews use a lunisolar calendar; Muslims use a solely lunar calendar. _______________________________________________ jbovlaste mailing list jbovlaste@lojban.org http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/jbovlaste