Received: from localhost ([::1]:53646 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UXht9-0002Gi-7a; Wed, 01 May 2013 18:00:47 -0700 Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.120]:52642) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UXht0-0002Gd-BF for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Wed, 01 May 2013 18:00:45 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=cYNQXw/M c=1 sm=0 a=sqYj6zCFaLTNQ95sbP+eeQ==:17 a=W3V8cEvdJLQA:10 a=ZZ8iE6dJbVQA:10 a=x1IG0gVEuAMA:10 a=Yr05hP5UdKEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=JNFw9bs7AAAA:8 a=c9n7qoWIfqMA:10 a=I1R_OG3WoPHyBpCN-k4A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=HDMjJrb_xYoA:10 a=sqYj6zCFaLTNQ95sbP+eeQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Authenticated-User: X-Originating-IP: 69.132.98.107 Received: from [69.132.98.107] ([69.132.98.107:36715] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 97/05-11869-FAAB1815; Thu, 02 May 2013 01:00:32 +0000 Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 592EC25CA1 for ; Wed, 1 May 2013 21:00:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Date: Wed, 01 May 2013 21:00:31 -0400 Message-ID: <1848929.ST3SPvJx7r@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-40-generic; KDE/4.8.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <2384390.W0pUJPLNBR@caracal> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Subject: Re: [jbovlaste] Type-3 fu'ivla was: newlines X-BeenThere: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: jbovlaste@lojban.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: jbovlaste-bounces@lojban.org On Thursday, May 02, 2013 01:13:42 Sebastian wrote: > Skickat fr=E5n min iPhone > = > 2 maj 2013 kl. 00:05 skrev Pierre Abbat : > > Should we add, for every type-3 fu'ivla, the form that uses the long > > rafsi? > > Also there are some entries which are meant to be type-3 but aren't. > > = > >> jongausib - debrpisu > > = > > Valid type-3, but uses the short rafsi. > = > Short rafsi often sounds better in my opinion and anyhow there's a natural > tendency to look for the shortest form of a word. I agree, but should we also enter "dembrpisu"? There are a few combinations= of = gismu and foreign part for which the short rafsi can't be used, even if a C= VC = rafsi exists, because the resulting fu'ivla has the same form as one made w= ith = a CVCC rafsi. I don't remember the example now, and I'm at a Parallax = Propeller workshop. > >> jongausib - sparasparagu > > = > > I'd say "sparago". > = > "Sparsparagu"? I try to avoid fu'ivla-4 as they don't give any clue to wh= at > kind of thing you're speaking of, and in accordance to CLL recommendation, > except in unique words like "iklki" or "fi'ikca". The type-3 has to be "spatrsparagu". "sparsparagu" is a type-4. > >> jongausib - sparaci > > = > > This is obviously a type-4 and I racked my brain trying to guess what it > > means before looking it up and finding it's meant to be a type-3 for so= me > > plant I never heard of. > = > "sparxaci"? As you can see I've started to add a fu'ivla for (almost) eve= ry > genus of plants. "spatrxaci". I think it's silly making a fu'ivla for every genus. Does any = natlang have a common name for every genus of plants? Pierre -- = I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales. _______________________________________________ jbovlaste mailing list jbovlaste@lojban.org http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/jbovlaste