Received: from localhost ([::1]:54107 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UXiqZ-0002Zf-9i; Wed, 01 May 2013 19:02:11 -0700 Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com ([209.85.212.172]:64464) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UXiqW-0002Za-4N for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Wed, 01 May 2013 19:02:09 -0700 Received: by mail-wi0-f172.google.com with SMTP id hm14so91652wib.11 for ; Wed, 01 May 2013 19:02:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JhgMnUhBS2zCgRh0fPeVBmPVpw7tNPR5p6qUEhOdWqk=; b=Au1bAXe1/6elwKO0LHEIYn5MXqg0Y1ChVBfJADnRlYuG2AMpiivrtaojYWP4ZlJyH1 FoyV6XKeIp6dV91dp1jfSDWbEQJLsQCHDHbZh8hlnd6OtbYkisCknI20lOlWPd1sI+LT 8jPc3HvBRyVoK68a+GuYzQszC5p8sdLYmTteQ0r52yPGMe3JVjdgNomryC+Fsh3bQBhW TUAekZpODe2LT7hMxSQiM1I2S/dXoTzNyGTTRAK8Yc5tQWlo5LQAXok1UIT7n1L9oVJa h16TOBamLwTPqsdR9sPRrOfVx/NcEy0vbNBkbryBPdh/oEijpwdMFaY+6WTeWzzypvjD jVRA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.108.165 with SMTP id hl5mr5203864wjb.22.1367460120690; Wed, 01 May 2013 19:02:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.25.97 with HTTP; Wed, 1 May 2013 19:02:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130502013341.GE13156@mercury.ccil.org> References: <2384390.W0pUJPLNBR@caracal> <1848929.ST3SPvJx7r@caracal> <20130502013341.GE13156@mercury.ccil.org> Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 20:02:00 -0600 Message-ID: From: Jonathan Jones To: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Subject: Re: [jbovlaste] Type-3 fu'ivla was: newlines X-BeenThere: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: jbovlaste@lojban.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3445479850597893865==" Errors-To: jbovlaste-bounces@lojban.org --===============3445479850597893865== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bf10a18bd090704dbb29ef0 --047d7bf10a18bd090704dbb29ef0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 7:33 PM, John Cowan wrote: > Jonathan Jones scripsit: > > > Of course, I'm certain that everyone knows that my feelings on fu'ivla > are > > that they should the absolute last resort in all cases, so the above > isn't > > likely news to anyone. > > Well, I can't agree with you there. For narrow technical notions, they > are just > way more useful. You can look up what _Mastophora dizzydeani_ is. > How are you going to construct a useful lujvo for that exact species? I never said they had to be lujvo. I just said that fu'ivla should be a last resort. Without a lot of effort, and with the consideration that I couldn't find out what "mastophora" means: {boljivbu jukni la.dizidin.} -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --047d7bf10a18bd090704dbb29ef0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On W= ed, May 1, 2013 at 7:33 PM, John Cowan <cowan@mercury.ccil.org>= ; wrote:
Jonathan Jones scripsit:

> Of =A0course, I'm certain that everyone knows that my feelings on = fu'ivla are
> that they should the absolute last resort in all cases, so the above i= sn't
> likely news to anyone.

Well, I can't agree with you there. =A0For narrow technical notio= ns, they are just
way more useful. =A0You can look up what _Mastophora dizzydeani_ is.
How are you going to construct a useful lujvo for that exact species?

I never said they had to be lujvo. I just said t= hat fu'ivla should be a last resort.

Without a lot of= effort, and with the consideration that I couldn't find out what "= ;mastophora" means:
{boljivbu jukni la.dizidin.}

--
mu'o= mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i do= i.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your fathe= r. :D )
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