From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Mar 25 09:29:20 2011 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Fri, 25 Mar 2011 09:29:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q39t2-0003cu-OJ for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 09:29:20 -0700 Received: from mail-wy0-f181.google.com ([74.125.82.181]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q39sz-0003cc-Bw for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 09:29:20 -0700 Received: by wyi11 with SMTP id 11so837406wyi.40 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 09:29:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=qMD26GZF08AP0+B3qfmMDKT4SAEpCF17IuFKO72vstE=; b=K4ciTBW+48h8heL6rY88f2VO6xu0ew2ct678Jpaq1LMehAHKs6+2Mq3zXcrwBG9w6d RMINYpdYt4HJ8FCrX+ldmXy/RBC2lwXC1eTgdtcKTA87la3tS42eTg6yILMAN1NSYcWJ XeZsmX1QrvSqURDEUtp5qsC5mZwDSttZ/lln4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=EySh1KI23HAWz7QjM/0tJd/2o9aA3xVrq3ScM8ldBTUU4eEjPHh03ALnvnOG/V/SwC VqrFEhg13YR1I4fs51NKGAUkmgXVWX/DRFO8N41gJHidy5HAFygMNPljGNFFnmwhwy+W gJDuqqgx9cn1ZTvwFN3kLAqdSIJHUgzFUMF+8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.183.148 with SMTP id q20mr850012wem.88.1301070550947; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 09:29:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.26.68 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 09:29:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <700241.13714.qm@web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <700241.13714.qm@web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:29:10 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3Ab626WRKpEpEedQFH4esUE5ewc Message-ID: Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: Music terminology From: tijlan To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 3 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jbotijlan@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste On 25 March 2011 14:37, A. PIEKARSKI wrote: > 1) nolzgi > z1=n1 the classical music performed at/by z2 (event) originating in culture n1 > from > z1=n1 zgike z2 gi'e nobli n2 Does this include non-Western "noble" music (e.g. Chinese court music)? > 3) ninzgi > z1=n1 the pop music performed at/by z2 (event) There are many forms of music that have been new and innovative but aren't classified as pop (e.g. glitch). > 5) sinfana > x1 is a symphony composed by x1 consisting of movements x3 If I were to Lojbanize "symphony", I would say "simfoni", which would more easily be recognized by speakers of non-Western languages such as Indonesian (simfoni) and Japanese (シンフォニー | shinfonii). I might also suggest "simtoga" as a pseudo-lujvo fu'ivla from "simxu tonga", which would be a semantic approximation of how "symphony" is translated into Chinese, Vietnamese, Japanese, etc. > 8) zgitro > j1 conducts music z1 being performed by/at z2=j3 (event) > from > j1 jitro lonu z1 zgike z2=j3 I would prefer "zgigi'a" (zgike-gidva) (in fact, "conduct" is one of the gloss words of "gidva").