Return-path: X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7-deb (2006-10-05) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7-deb (2006-10-05) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=ham version=3.1.7-deb Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Tue, 22 May 2007 00:13:50 -0700 Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.178]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HqOYz-0002Iy-RO for rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org; Tue, 22 May 2007 00:13:50 -0700 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id n7so82097wag for ; Tue, 22 May 2007 00:13:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=Zdg5tkvKJFyaf3w8JWl0I0RvVRl/n5cXOBHqUCAT8Kq7qbHnHNqYbZBsCyvxY0cPr2tXOzHrsW2ad3+9GccRTtOkDqyYTLrLVrBouiZL3LfK2CxXMkIYRfsis3YPBhYyGY0infEWNyM7x9AOC323gUjPrKHbLd+vwFdrKamA2PA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=LOs2jBPxp33N+Yv9R0tQ6Z3iOLjhpHO7VqHWfBhpTf/6EC5Bfacelc6Icfa229J7MCIljoZ+pFDm9WSV3PePu93BvtjaqqBEhWOTuQaLgVZ1dLlZ0Lf9+vsui8R7iXNV3QA1vuQcNvEHdx0VDdnLVYaWGDLqJPQJCn/LF6Tog9s= Received: by 10.115.94.1 with SMTP id w1mr3152993wal.1179818021671; Tue, 22 May 2007 00:13:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.137.1 with HTTP; Tue, 22 May 2007 00:13:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 12:43:41 +0530 From: "Suki Venkat" Sender: suki.venkat@gmail.com To: "Robin Lee Powell" Subject: Re: [jbovlaste] Re: jbovlaste natlang word voting question In-Reply-To: <20070519235608.GB7871@digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_34655_8121487.1179818021598" References: <20070513031708.GX16151@digitalkingdom.org> <20070519235608.GB7871@digitalkingdom.org> X-Google-Sender-Auth: ecbe61a97ed6b8e3 Content-Length: 9959 Lines: 146 ------=_Part_34655_8121487.1179818021598 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Oops! That was blundering bufffon -who didn't know how to use blackberry!! Suki On 5/20/07, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > Was there supposed to be some content here? > > -Robin > > On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 12:20:57PM +0000, skvenkat@tnq.co.in wrote: > > > > Sent from BlackBerry(r) on Airtel > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Robin Lee Powell > > > > Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 20:17:08 > > To:jbovlaste@lojban.org, lojban-list@lojban.org > > Subject: [jbovlaste] jbovlaste natlang word voting question > > > > > > > > A jbovlaste question; if you don't care about how jbovlaste works or > > is laid out, move along. > > > > I'm pondering the nature of natlang word voting; look at > > http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/natlang/en/computer%20program for > > example (if anyone can suggest a better example, where "better" is > > defined here as "more contention", please speak up). > > > > I'm wondering if natlang word voting buys us anything. I mean, a > > Lojban word has only one meaning, so it's not Ok for the second > > place of sampli to mean both "computer program" and "astronaut". :) > > But it *is* OK for "computer program" to map to both sampli and > > samtci, as occurs on that page. I don't see a lot of value to > > preferring one over the other; maybe if they're both above water (a > > positive vote value) we should have both in the dictionary? > > > > What do you all think? > > > > As a related philosophical issue, is it OK for the second place of > > sampli to mean both "computer program" and "computer" (as is > > currently the case)? Why or why not? I'm honestly not sure one way > > or the other. > > > > -Robin > > > > -- > > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ > > Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" > > Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/ > > > > > > On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 12:35:51PM +0000, skvenkat@tnq.co.in wrote: > > D > > Sent from BlackBerry(r) on Airtel > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Robin Lee Powell > > > > Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 20:17:08 > > To:jbovlaste@lojban.org, lojban-list@lojban.org > > Subject: [jbovlaste] jbovlaste natlang word voting question > > > > > > > > A jbovlaste question; if you don't care about how jbovlaste works or > > is laid out, move along. > > > > I'm pondering the nature of natlang word voting; look at > > http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/natlang/en/computer%20program for > > example (if anyone can suggest a better example, where "better" is > > defined here as "more contention", please speak up). > > > > I'm wondering if natlang word voting buys us anything. I mean, a > > Lojban word has only one meaning, so it's not Ok for the second > > place of sampli to mean both "computer program" and "astronaut". :) > > But it *is* OK for "computer program" to map to both sampli and > > samtci, as occurs on that page. I don't see a lot of value to > > preferring one over the other; maybe if they're both above water (a > > positive vote value) we should have both in the dictionary? > > > > What do you all think? > > > > As a related philosophical issue, is it OK for the second place of > > sampli to mean both "computer program" and "computer" (as is > > currently the case)? Why or why not? I'm honestly not sure one way > > or the other. > > > > -Robin > > > > -- > > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ > > Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" > > Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/ > > > > > > > -- > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ > Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" > Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/ > ------=_Part_34655_8121487.1179818021598 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Oops!

That was blundering bufffon
-who didn't know how to use blackberry!!

Suki

On 5/20/07, Robin Lee Powell < rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
Was there supposed to be some content here?

-Robin

On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 12:20:57PM +0000, skvenkat@tnq.co.in wrote:
>
> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>
>
> Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 20:17:08
> To:jbovlaste@lojban.org , lojban-list@lojban.org
> Subject: [jbovlaste] jbovlaste natlang word voting question
>
>
>
> A jbovlaste question; if you don't care about how jbovlaste works or
> is laid out, move along.
>
> I'm pondering the nature of natlang word voting; look at
> http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/natlang/en/computer%20program for
> example (if anyone can suggest a better example, where "better" is
> defined here as "more contention", please speak up).
>
> I'm wondering if natlang word voting buys us anything.  I mean, a
> Lojban word has only one meaning, so it's not Ok for the second
> place of sampli to mean both "computer program" and "astronaut".  :)
> But it *is* OK for "computer program" to map to both sampli and
> samtci, as occurs on that page.  I don't see a lot of value to
> preferring one over the other; maybe if they're both above water (a
> positive vote value) we should have both in the dictionary?
>
> What do you all think?
>
> As a related philosophical issue, is it OK for the second place of
> sampli to mean both "computer program" and "computer" (as is
> currently the case)?  Why or why not?  I'm honestly not sure one way
> or the other.
>
> -Robin
>
> --
> http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/
> Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!"
> Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/
>
>

On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 12:35:51PM +0000, skvenkat@tnq.co.in wrote:
> D
> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robin Lee Powell < rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>
>
> Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 20:17:08
> To:jbovlaste@lojban.org, lojban-list@lojban.org
> Subject: [jbovlaste] jbovlaste natlang word voting question
>
>
>
> A jbovlaste question; if you don't care about how jbovlaste works or
> is laid out, move along.
>
> I'm pondering the nature of natlang word voting; look at
> http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/natlang/en/computer%20program for
> example (if anyone can suggest a better example, where "better" is
> defined here as "more contention", please speak up).
>
> I'm wondering if natlang word voting buys us anything.  I mean, a
> Lojban word has only one meaning, so it's not Ok for the second
> place of sampli to mean both "computer program" and "astronaut".  :)
> But it *is* OK for "computer program" to map to both sampli and
> samtci, as occurs on that page.  I don't see a lot of value to
> preferring one over the other; maybe if they're both above water (a
> positive vote value) we should have both in the dictionary?
>
> What do you all think?
>
> As a related philosophical issue, is it OK for the second place of
> sampli to mean both "computer program" and "computer" (as is
> currently the case)?  Why or why not?  I'm honestly not sure one way
> or the other.
>
> -Robin
>
> --
> http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/
> Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!"
> Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/
>
>


--
http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/
Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!"
Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/

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