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Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:03:30 +0200 (CEST)
From: Matthias-Christian Ott <matthias.christian@yahoo.de>
Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: jbovlaste erroneously states original creator as the person who edited a definition
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> On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 08:47:13PM +0200, Matthias-Christian Ott
> wrote:
> > > On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 02:14:21PM +0200, Matthias-Christian Ott
> > > wrote:
> > > > My suggestion is to use a revision controll system and a plain
> > > > text storage for the text, so we wouldn't need the web
> > > > interface (which is a bit buggy and has a slow insertion
> > > > procedure). I vote for git, mercurial or darcs.
> > > 
> > > 1.  That's a really bad idea: plain text doesn't enforce formats
> > > well, and people *will* screw the format up, and then someone
> > > has to go and correct all the screwups.  Are you volunteering?
> > 
> > We could have a validating parser. UNIX works on plaintext and it
> > works quite well - so why shouldn't a dictionary use plaintext? We
> > could also use s-expression and (yuck!) XML. I'll probably develop
> > a context for this during the next week.
> 
> I suppose we could, but bear in mind that it needs to maintain
> referential integrity between natlang words and Lojban valsi is
> rather useless.

Hmm, a script could do that for you. Every time something is changed a
script gets automatically called that does the job for you and updates
the references.

> > > 2.  I'm certainly not writing the code for it.  Again, are you
> > > volunteering?
> > 
> > Yes, I would. With some help from others and some time it should
> > work.
> 
> If you have coding skill, re-inventing the wheel like this seems a
> horrific waste of your time.  There are so many Lojban projects that
> need coders.

Yes, I know a lot of programming languages and have some experience,
but generally speaking this task requires a good team.
Anyhow I'm at Lojban level 0 and currently thinking about buying the
reference grammar to learn it. But it seems (in my opinion) that Lojban
has reached its popularity and usage zenith some years ago and is now
dieing. I'm really interested in it, but a dieing language isn't very
useful and doing a lot of work for some remaining freaks of the Lojban
community who in fact don't need it is a waste of time. If Lojban is
going to expand and will stay vivid, it would be worth the efforts, but
for me it seems that Lojban infrastructure is owned by a few people who
decide on its future. I don't know if I would really like to learn and
"propagate" Lojban in this case.

> But if that's what you want to do, have fun.

Hmm, I don't know if I really want to do that, I mean especially alone.
If there would be any other volunteers and an encouraged community, it
would be great, but currently it seems to be painful and thankless.

> -Robin
>

--
Matthias-Christian


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