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From: "Matt Arnold" <matt.mattarn@gmail.com>
To: jbovlaste@lojban.org
Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: jbovlaste erroneously states original creator as the person who edited a definition
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Actually, Lojban growth and popularity is like a roller coaster. It
has many zeniths. The good news is that each zenith has been higher
than the last, so it's trending upward.

-Matt

On 9/23/07, Matthias-Christian Ott <matthias.christian@yahoo.de> wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 08:47:13PM +0200, Matthias-Christian Ott
> > wrote:
> > > > On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 02:14:21PM +0200, Matthias-Christian Ott
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > My suggestion is to use a revision controll system and a plain
> > > > > text storage for the text, so we wouldn't need the web
> > > > > interface (which is a bit buggy and has a slow insertion
> > > > > procedure). I vote for git, mercurial or darcs.
> > > >
> > > > 1.  That's a really bad idea: plain text doesn't enforce formats
> > > > well, and people *will* screw the format up, and then someone
> > > > has to go and correct all the screwups.  Are you volunteering?
> > >
> > > We could have a validating parser. UNIX works on plaintext and it
> > > works quite well - so why shouldn't a dictionary use plaintext? We
> > > could also use s-expression and (yuck!) XML. I'll probably develop
> > > a context for this during the next week.
> >
> > I suppose we could, but bear in mind that it needs to maintain
> > referential integrity between natlang words and Lojban valsi is
> > rather useless.
>
> Hmm, a script could do that for you. Every time something is changed a
> script gets automatically called that does the job for you and updates
> the references.
>
> > > > 2.  I'm certainly not writing the code for it.  Again, are you
> > > > volunteering?
> > >
> > > Yes, I would. With some help from others and some time it should
> > > work.
> >
> > If you have coding skill, re-inventing the wheel like this seems a
> > horrific waste of your time.  There are so many Lojban projects that
> > need coders.
>
> Yes, I know a lot of programming languages and have some experience,
> but generally speaking this task requires a good team.
> Anyhow I'm at Lojban level 0 and currently thinking about buying the
> reference grammar to learn it. But it seems (in my opinion) that Lojban
> has reached its popularity and usage zenith some years ago and is now
> dieing. I'm really interested in it, but a dieing language isn't very
> useful and doing a lot of work for some remaining freaks of the Lojban
> community who in fact don't need it is a waste of time. If Lojban is
> going to expand and will stay vivid, it would be worth the efforts, but
> for me it seems that Lojban infrastructure is owned by a few people who
> decide on its future. I don't know if I would really like to learn and
> "propagate" Lojban in this case.
>
> > But if that's what you want to do, have fun.
>
> Hmm, I don't know if I really want to do that, I mean especially alone.
> If there would be any other volunteers and an encouraged community, it
> would be great, but currently it seems to be painful and thankless.
>
> > -Robin
> >
>
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> Matthias-Christian
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