Return-path: X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.1 Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 07:46:55 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Icj1L-0008E2-Lg; Tue, 02 Oct 2007 07:46:50 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Tue, 02 Oct 2007 07:46:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Icj0x-0008Dw-A9 for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Tue, 02 Oct 2007 07:46:23 -0700 Received: from mail.bcpl.net ([204.255.212.10]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Icj0v-0008De-9x for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Tue, 02 Oct 2007 07:46:23 -0700 Received: from webmail.bcpl.net (webmail.bcpl.net [204.255.212.24]) by mail.bcpl.net (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id l92EkJ43022406 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 10:46:19 -0400 (EDT) X-WebMail-UserID: turnip Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 10:46:19 -0400 From: turnip To: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00002700 Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: jbovlaste erroneously states original creator as the person who edited a definition Message-ID: <47037815@webmail.bcpl.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: WebMail (Hydra) SMTP v3.61.08 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: turnip@bcpl.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 1424 Lines: 56 >===== Original Message From Robin Lee Powell ===== >On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 01:12:56PM -0400, turnip wrote: >> to xelfanva seva'u lo prenu poi na'e selbau la gliban toi >> go'i ji'una'iku > >ji'u na'i ku ki'a sai See refgram Chapter 15, section 10: >Presupposition failure can be marked directly if the presupposition is overt; >if not, one can insert a ``mock presupposition'' to question with the sumti >tcita (selma'o BAI) word ``ji'u''; ``ji'uku'' thus explicitly refers to an >unexpressed assumption, and ``ji'una'iku'' metalinguistically says that >something is wrong with that assumption. (See Chapter 10.) > >> .i lo ka ce'u banro je selci'i pe la lojban > >"(The property of growing and being someone interested in things) >associated with Lojban." > >ki'a > Yes. The property of being (a-grower-and-interested-thing), associated with lojban. What's wrong with that? >> simsa lo falrenzdi > >zo falrenzdi na cmima la jbovlaste .i ko cuxna lo te sumti smuni ku >gi'a pilno lo tanru > lo falrenzdi cu trene fo loi velfa'u joi lo linsi poi mo'iga'u lacpu ku mu'i lo nu zdile lo selma'e >"fall train amusing"? ki'a sai > >> lo ka ponse so'i jipno .i ui le'i jipno cu terpoi lo ka galtu > >le ro moi jufra cu mutce xamgu .io ki'e .i mutce nandu fa le pu'u fanva ku mi (Sorry for the delay in responding... It's a Jewish holiday right now) --gejyspa