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From: Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>
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On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 04:52:58PM +0200, tijlan wrote:
> 2009/9/14 Ben Goertzel <ben@goertzel.org>:
> > I'm grateful to Robin for operating this list and for all his
> > work on Lojban.
> 
> So am i.

Thanks.  For my part, I am very grateful to all the people who have
been adding a lot of words lately.

> > 2) Perhaps consideration should be given to moving the list to
> > Google Groups or some similar infrastructure, which is free and
> > has automated infrastructure for people to add/remove
> > themselves.  This would eliminate the sort of hassle we're
> > seeing now.
> 
> I agree. Here's one group:
> 
> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban
> 
> But we might also want to create another one specifically for
> jbovlaste tasks.

I'd really rather you didn't.  The point here is that people with
jbovlaste accounts are *automatically* subscribed to this list.  We
had problems in the past where people who signed up for accounts
were not participating in discussions about how to use the system,
and would keep doing whatever wrong things they were doing until we
went and contacted them personally.

The system we're using allows peple to easily unsubscribe
themselves, but I've got a system in place to put them back
until/unless their account is disabled.  I'd really rather not have
to replicate it for Google Groups.

What I can do, and have done, is make the new account page a *LOT*
more clear as to the purpose of the account:

http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/newaccount.html

-Robin

-- 
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And I'm  thinking:  "Does it even occur to you to try for something
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