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From: Arnt Richard Johansen <arj@nvg.org>
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Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: [jvsw] New NatLang Word accretion disk -- By	VesRul
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On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 02:17:47PM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 09:26:05AM +0200, Arnt Richard Johansen
> wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 03:31:42PM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> > > Does jbovlaste warn about the sense field during word
> > > submission, or only on the automatic notice as below?
> > 
> > I tried that, but unfortunately no. As long as the word “accretion
> > disk; astronomy” exists, if you try to submit a definition that
> > points to just “accretion disk”, you can't get past the “Check
> > Definition” part of the submission.
> > 
> > This is a Jbovlaste bug, of course,
> 
> It's not actually; it's behaving exactly as designed.  The idea was
> that natlang words should almost always have senses, because natlang
> words are almost always polysemous.

I take that back. It's not a bug, it's a misfeature. :-)
(http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/M/misfeature.html)

> Why do you think that this behaviour is bad?

This behaviour is bad if “accretion disk” is specific enough by itself.

At the very least, I think the check should only be against natlang words that are _not_ the natlang word that is being changed. That is, if you're removing the subsense of the only entry in that natlang word family, it should be allowed.

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