Return-path: Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Sat, 13 May 2006 08:57:09 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FewU6-0004z4-GR; Sat, 13 May 2006 08:56:52 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Sat, 13 May 2006 08:56:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FewU3-0004yw-MS for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 08:56:47 -0700 Received: from mx.211.ru ([193.238.131.194]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FewU0-0004yp-HB for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 08:56:47 -0700 Received: from localhost (mx.211.ru [193.238.131.194]) by mx.211.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B32EBD9B for ; Sat, 13 May 2006 22:56:41 +0700 (NOVST) Received: from mx.211.ru ([193.238.131.194]) by localhost (mx.211.ru [193.238.131.194]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 48126-09 for ; Sat, 13 May 2006 22:56:39 +0700 (NOVST) Received: from mail.211.ru (mail [10.5.1.2]) by mx.211.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96D62EBD9C for ; Sat, 13 May 2006 22:56:39 +0700 (NOVST) Received: from host-102-2-129.211.ru (host-102-2-129.211.ru [10.102.2.129]) by mail.211.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7142C5C1B for ; Sat, 13 May 2006 22:56:39 +0700 (NOVST) Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 22:56:37 +0700 From: Yanis Batura X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.30) Professional X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1484983511.20060513225637@mail.ru> To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: Terminology usage of words In-Reply-To: <925d17560605130726n5b6b39d4h6a3b94b0f684971f@mail.gmail.com> References: <1265995131.20060513141939@mail.ru> <200605130758.45600.phma@phma.optus.nu> <925d17560605130726n5b6b39d4h6a3b94b0f684971f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------A21C21FC16090A5D" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ybatura@mail.ru Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Keywords: X-UID: 352 Content-Length: 5295 Lines: 186 ------------A21C21FC16090A5D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 13.05.2006, 21:26, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > On 5/13/06, Pierre Abbat wrote: >> If you use a brivla in a special terminological sense, the place structu= re >> must carry over, else the word becomes polysemous, which is not allowed = for >> brivla. So if a pawn is a sonci, it's a soldier in some army. Which it i= s; >> the white pawn is a soldier in the army consisting of all white chessmen= . But >> the bishop and the knight are not elephants or horses of any species. > Maybe two of them are of the "White" species, and two of > the "Black" species? > Or maybe better they are of the "chess" species. If teddy bears can > be cribe, as CLL claims, then it would seem that chess horses can be > xirma. Hmmmm.... how do you suggest to call chess pieces, then, and how to implem= ent it in the dictionary? Usage of {le}+selbri allows calling {le mlatu} a = dog and vice versa. If this is possible, why then can't horses walk on the = chessboard? mi'e .ianis. --------------------- Lojban: A Language With *Intelligent* Design ------------A21C21FC16090A5D Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On 13.05.2006, 21:26, Jorge Llambнas wrot= e:

> On 5/13/06, Pierre Abbat&nb= sp;<phma@phma= .optus.nu> wrote:

>> If you use a brivl= a in a special terminological sense, the = ;place structure

>> must carry over, else&n= bsp;the word becomes polysemous, which is not= allowed for

>> brivla. So if a pa= wn is a sonci, it's a soldier in so= me army. Which it is;

>> the white pawn is = a soldier in the army consisting of all&= nbsp;white chessmen. But

>> the bishop and the = ;knight are not elephants or horses of a= ny species.

> Maybe two of them are&= nbsp;of the "White" species, and two of

> the "Black" species?

> Or maybe better they a= re of the "chess" species. If teddy bear= s can

> be cribe, as CLL claim= s, then it would seem that chess horses&= nbsp;can be

> xirma.

Hmmmm.... how do you suggest to call chess pieces, then, and how t= o implement it in the dictionary? Usage of {le}+selbri allows calling {le m= latu} a dog and vice versa. If this is possible, why then can't horses walk= on the chessboard?

mi'e .ianis.

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