Return-path: X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:47:17 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N4KqQ-0008AS-Nd; Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:46:45 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N4KpW-0008AK-AR for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:45:46 -0700 Received: from mail-ew0-f216.google.com ([209.85.219.216]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N4KpQ-00088Z-Tl for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:45:45 -0700 Received: by ewy12 with SMTP id 12so13747ewy.0 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:45:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=k/R9FEn6afhsNjth8R1FeBrDrcwXdOxckkQT8kjbGfQ=; b=QN9hIDF1r3FthqHvuR8MF6YTQND9z/wroK7lIcnon5FohPoRkEsRfhZXLGqu5deSpJ LJhjmDIDEYisIDTzPDpFSAcR5hmFDMAnVizhKHlQKR9FEmHf5T+0RsRLX/+XlW3URtg7 28H5WhU06heYCeryQ2mbg7WvlQJOl5RGtCLr0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=C3Syxysh2LBPmHchn6VlhAHLj98PhZT/cmwFTxpZ4aUxanZjscoTOrGj1z+Qg0DqBp QF4OlmFp8QzGwFl+E0Tg2rcF9+OJmwdNW/WP0U344dE+4bUVs3A6pxd+m5jG9Id/0yUo QsfTJwbXbLUDUzFyUDqaf2UCtLVc5SQbT1OSM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.87.12 with SMTP id x12mr2122960wee.48.1257021933152; Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:45:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4de8c3930910310419s35b3f58fpd73cfd887eebcf93@mail.gmail.com> References: <200910281137.09403.phma@phma.optus.nu> <200910290215.09643.phma@phma.optus.nu> <12d58c160910301043l14651f33kb58162f849c157e0@mail.gmail.com> <200910301823.57249.phma@phma.optus.nu> <4de8c3930910302007u2478e2cbg1999808273488ab5@mail.gmail.com> <20091031044904.GG19026@mercury.ccil.org> <4de8c3930910310419s35b3f58fpd73cfd887eebcf93@mail.gmail.com> From: Daniel Brockman Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:45:13 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 662ed077a8cfa5a4 Message-ID: Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: the common cold and the flu To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: daniel@brockman.se Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 501 Lines: 17 > Can i say "mi te vidru fi ti" to mean "I'm susceptible to this virus", > or should the x3 be the organ/part of my body for which i would have > to use "jai" to place "mi"? I don't think {jai}/{tu'a} can be used for that kind of metonymy. At least traditionally, it's only used for the kind where you're using an object in an abstraction in place of the abstraction. For the kind where you use an object in place of a related object, we have {zo'e pe}. -- Daniel Brockman daniel@brockman.se