Return-path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS, T_DKIM_INVALID,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on chain.digitalkingdom.org Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 04:15:51 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([192.168.123.127]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O75El-0004n2-AH; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 04:15:31 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Wed, 28 Apr 2010 04:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O75Di-0004mq-Q0 for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 04:14:23 -0700 Received: from mail-qy0-f179.google.com ([209.85.221.179]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O75Db-0004lq-Rq for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 04:14:22 -0700 Received: by qyk9 with SMTP id 9so21053840qyk.1 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 04:14:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=/1NTbe8Lg3yijb0GPFuruQXHiApyviDRyY6L8qkft8c=; b=kFEXOX7tow9y4EaWH2+oLXghjSz1kAsEwCD9FtZPJUu+p0XSmHAxXcWd2pzxwiopVp IAoTanAuH3lgGAYiSZHEfXFAUgMl4BaSJP1alTHbbljMkap32Vu3le6+DDovscmOyvey 21tBRMF7UVqRyDPtCWO+jbqDhdpLxTp8tlc2s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=V7RKwgn1p/bDAmdaEgaXxn24l5VwYrVTunzJjJpPzW8vFSvqzVEKniOlS6tnqWvJYF I4zyjY2dnithRT56vZsHjCweUPj05uIVggskGKBWK4xJWormBjU2ZfqnobYiebNJBOBY UPloLgpQAT2PJu8Jx84n9v84Q8xRaD0rPUzJk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.191.18 with SMTP id dk18mr2000762qcb.9.1272453249196; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 04:14:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.1.222 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 04:14:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:14:09 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6a3932e59282d110 Message-ID: Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: catalyst From: tijlan To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b9092e9645e04854a1b6f X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jbotijlan@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 2753 Lines: 60 --0016363b9092e9645e04854a1b6f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2010/4/27 Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas > > When forming lujvo, it is possible to extend the literal meaning of > the components, so even if "se fusra" is limited to bio-catalysts that > facilitate catabolic reactions, that doesn't mean that "selfusra" > can't have a wider application. Perhaps "zanfusra" and "malfusra" can > distinguish the ana- and cata-bolic types. > I don't think catabolism should have a derogative sense. It "provides the chemical energy necessary for the maintenance and growth of cells": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catabolism We want to consider "metabolic" as well. Again something with "fusra". I feel that "anabolic" and "catabolic" should be based on that lujvo, not on "fusra" itself. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metabolism --0016363b9092e9645e04854a1b6f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
2010/4/27 Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas = <jjllambias@gmail.com>

When forming lujvo, it is possible to extend the literal meaning of
the components, so even if "se fusra" is limited to bio-catalysts= that
facilitate catabolic reactions, that doesn't mean that "selfusra&q= uot;
can't have a wider application. Perhaps "zanfusra" and "= malfusra" can
distinguish the ana- and cata-bolic types.

I don&#= 39;t think catabolism should have a derogative sense. It "provides the= chemical energy necessary for the maintenance and growth of cells":
=C2=A0= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catabolism

We want to consider &quo= t;metabolic" as well. Again something with "fusra". I feel t= hat "anabolic" and "catabolic" should be based on that = lujvo, not on "fusra" itself.
=C2=A0http://en.wikiped= ia.org/wiki/Metabolism
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