Return-path: Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Sun, 02 Jul 2006 06:24:28 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Fx1vs-0005GX-7J; Sun, 02 Jul 2006 06:24:18 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Sun, 02 Jul 2006 06:24:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Fx1vk-0005GR-5h for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Sun, 02 Jul 2006 06:24:09 -0700 Received: from mx.211.ru ([193.238.131.194]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Fx1ve-0005GJ-EG for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Sun, 02 Jul 2006 06:24:07 -0700 Received: from localhost (mx.211.ru [193.238.131.194]) by mx.211.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9A07EBE21 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2006 21:21:02 +0700 (NOVST) Received: from mx.211.ru ([193.238.131.194]) by localhost (mx.211.ru [193.238.131.194]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 71550-01 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2006 21:21:01 +0700 (NOVST) Received: from mail.211.ru (mail [10.5.1.2]) by mx.211.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34651EBDD4 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2006 21:21:00 +0700 (NOVST) Received: from localhost (host-102-2-129.211.ru [10.102.2.129]) by mail.211.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id A53AA5C19 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2006 20:31:33 +0700 (NOVST) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2006 20:23:53 +0700 From: Yanis Batura X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.30) Professional X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1735719418.20060702202353@mail.ru> To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: Fur In-Reply-To: <925d17560607020545h206e530cxa093eb361e5f4cfe@mail.gmail.com> References: <1235867244.20060701094111@mail.ru> <200607010014.10825.phma@phma.optus.nu> <925d17560607010818i1095523vf582e413f2267869@mail.gmail.com> <200607020246.45725.phma@phma.optus.nu> <1664332220.20060702144348@mail.ru> <925d17560607020545h206e530cxa093eb361e5f4cfe@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------8F1691D1294BB3C" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ybatura@mail.ru Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Content-Length: 5082 Lines: 178 ------------8F1691D1294BB3C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02.07.2006, 19:45, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > On 7/2/06, Yanis Batura wrote: >> {kreskapi} means hair-type of skin, or just skin with hair. It would not= be >> very good to restrict it to "fur", since, as Jorge has put it, "fur" is = more >> to the specific material than to a body part. > I think the question should be: Was the coat made with just the kerfa > of the animal, so that the animal need not have been killed, or was it > made with the pilka of the animal, in which case the animal had to be > killed? > If the coat was made with just the kerfa, then it was a sunla kosta, > (or sirsunla kosta). If it was made with the pilka, then it was a skapi > kosta (or kreskapi kosta). > mu'o mi'e xorxes Judging from the anecdote where the coat was "the result of suffering of po= or animals", it should be {kreskapi kosta}. mi'e .ianis. --------------------- Lojban: A Language With *Intelligent* Design ------------8F1691D1294BB3C Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On 02.07.2006, 19:45, Jorge Llambнas wrot= e:

> On 7/2/06, Yanis Batura&nbs= p;<ybatura@mail.= ru> wrote:

>> {kreskapi} means hair-type&n= bsp;of skin, or just skin with hair. It&= nbsp;would not be

>> very good to restrict&n= bsp;it to "fur", since, as Jorge has put= it, "fur" is more

>> to the specific materia= l than to a body part.

> I think the question s= hould be: Was the coat made with just&nb= sp;the kerfa

> of the animal, so that= the animal need not have been killed,&n= bsp;or was it

> made with the pilka of= the animal, in which case the animal&nb= sp;had to be

> killed?

> If the coat was made&n= bsp;with just the kerfa, then it was a&n= bsp;sunla kosta,

> (or sirsunla kosta). If&nbs= p;it was made with the pilka, then it&nb= sp;was a skapi

> kosta (or kreskapi kosta).<= /SPAN>

> mu'o mi'e xorxes

Judging from the anecdote where the coat was "the result of suffering of= poor animals", it should be {kreskapi kosta}.

mi'e .ianis.

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