Return-path: Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 17:58:18 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G3jLE-0004Ce-BX; Thu, 20 Jul 2006 17:58:10 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Thu, 20 Jul 2006 17:58:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G3jLC-0004CY-3E for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Thu, 20 Jul 2006 17:58:06 -0700 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.37]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G3jL9-0004CR-4b for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Thu, 20 Jul 2006 17:58:05 -0700 Received: from MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.5.) id d.bee.289180 (30740) for ; Thu, 20 Jul 2006 20:57:56 -0400 (EDT) From: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 20:57:56 EDT Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: No Catch To: jbovlaste@lojban.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_bee.289180.31f18094_boundary" X-Mailer: 6.0 for Windows XP sub 11501 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) Content-Length: 3054 Lines: 68 --part1_bee.289180.31f18094_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/20/2006 8:11:53 AM Central Standard Time, ybatura@mail.ru writes: > >> By the way, would it be possible to construct a proper lujvo for "catch" > if > >> there was no gismu {kavbu}? > You ask if it's "possible" to construct a "proper" lujvo for "catch". 1) I think that it's certainly possible to construct such a lujvo. The lujvo may not be very good, but it's still possible. 2) What's a "proper" lujvo? Well-formed? Easily guessed? Both? 3) What meaning(s) of "catch" do you want the lujvo to mean? How do you discriminate between different lujvo for the sense you want? Does catching a fish use the same word as catching a ball thrown to you? Does a dog catch a Frisbee with the same word that I catch a Frisbee with? How is the catching performed? What is caught? Using the word "catch" leaves a lot of leeway. (In fact, "kavbu" captures some, but not all, of the senses of 'catch'.) stevo --part1_bee.289180.31f18094_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 7/20/2006 8:11:5= 3 AM Central Standard Time, ybatura@mail.ru writes:


>> By the way, would=20= it be possible to construct a proper lujvo for "catch" if
>> there was no gismu {kavbu}?


You ask if it's "possible" to construct a "proper" lujvo for "catch". &n= bsp;
1) I think that it's certainly possible to construct such a lujvo.  = ;The lujvo may not be very good, but it's still possible.
2) What's a "proper" lujvo?  Well-formed?  Easily guessed? &nb= sp;Both?  
3) What meaning(s) of "catch" do you want the lujvo to mean?  How d= o you discriminate between different lujvo for the sense you want?  Doe= s catching a fish use the same word as catching a ball thrown to you?  = Does a dog catch a Frisbee with the same word that I catch a Frisbee with? &= nbsp;How is the catching performed?  What is caught?  Using the wo= rd "catch" leaves a lot of leeway.  (In fact, "kavbu" captures some, bu= t not all, of the senses of 'catch'.)

stevo
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