Return-path: X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:58:14 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MQ3JG-0006DA-U6; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:58:04 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:57:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MQ3IS-0006Cx-Ae for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:57:08 -0700 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.240]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MQ3IO-0006Cd-9K for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:57:08 -0700 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b17so635691rvf.46 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:57:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:references:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :mime-version:subject:date:cc; bh=CVt4Eyyam+N7MpI8mqD1IMK07AhQURQb2uYLZrqJhN8=; b=OuVzF7o2438MeQZQOhBC3ILLPcRVgo555KHus9dgFPKomv25mSvmOSarothbGB/vvh WKhhUojkmHBxkQt1A4HUfvSjqBdGJyAWoApk4qANFFOMd4uJZ0mGqr4ELhZGvt53qyat nPOR5U3daIwgXzMfzoGmQc/sf6nUEkuvQnYo0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:date:cc; b=jl0vWEgT24xpHZjEpNNhnpPbetRX3ZguKTHXQauM2mqhmScyRTeqjyXxS3c3ETRdaS v0YnLcvgj0lvpfld3ISIWXlvBrJuRcbRKpuYgQl7gIDArCL6hkQFXPZOLW9sEiVsL+ao yvK1E92JJZFhWliUlS/+hmjyFK0sr6AHdfE7Q= Received: by 10.141.34.12 with SMTP id m12mr2194706rvj.149.1247421423150; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:57:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.104? (66-215-91-229.dhcp.psdn.ca.charter.com [66.215.91.229]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g22sm18574306rvb.25.2009.07.12.10.57.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:57:02 -0700 (PDT) References: <12d58c160907020926q110af50ct2305b84a6266d886@mail.gmail.com> <4de8c3930907021140s3100c9b9j28f6794c172dbbf3@mail.gmail.com> <832317.47152.qm@web88007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <12d58c160907120941u4cbbdfa2q8d3514769590bfaa@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: <623807F3-F1F6-41A1-9D5E-79FDD03CD772@gmail.com> From: Ted Reed To: "jbovlaste@lojban.org" In-Reply-To: <12d58c160907120941u4cbbdfa2q8d3514769590bfaa@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7A341) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7A341) Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: jbovlaste new entries Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:56:57 -0700 Cc: "jbovlaste@lojban.org" X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ted.reed@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 685 Lines: 19 On Jul 12, 2009, at 9:41, "komfo,amonan" wrote: > There are at least two senses of 'government'. One is the > abstraction of 'govern' ({zu'o turni}). Another is the mass of > people, divided into various institutions, which does the governing; > I think this is {truci'e}. Another (used in Britain IIRC, but not in > the US) is the group composed of the PM & his ministers (& maybe > their staffs) in their executive function. In the US we refer to that as the Adminstration, as in "members of the Bush adminstration." I think because it would be out of place to refer to just one of the three branches by itself as a government. --bancus