Return-path: X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:24:08 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MQivE-0005Ha-Ho; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:23:59 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:23:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MQiut-0005HO-RX for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:23:36 -0700 Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.121]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MQiuq-0005H4-Bx for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:23:35 -0700 Received: from chausie ([71.75.215.96]) by cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090714142325620.TLIF28563@cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com> for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:23:25 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A58247AF for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:23:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: jbovlaste new entries Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:23:22 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <12d58c160907020926q110af50ct2305b84a6266d886@mail.gmail.com> <834309.95244.qm@web88004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4de8c3930907140645k58af0dc8id0cc979d1142a278@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4de8c3930907140645k58af0dc8id0cc979d1142a278@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200907141023.23288.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 718 Lines: 24 On Tuesday 14 July 2009 09:45:03 tijlan wrote: > What would be the gloss for "selgu'e"? "people" > (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/people) or "native" > (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/native)? I think "people" is better, but both English words are polysemous. Then there's "natmi". Is there any difference between gugde and natmi, besides that a gugde has a land? Would one say "la jugygug. gugde loi .uigru" or "la jugygug. gugde "? > As for "citizen", how about: > flaselgu'e (citizen; member of a state) > g2 is a citizen, a legally recognized member of g1 (country/state) in > g3 (land/territory) by law f1. If g2 is a people, then "flaselgu'ecmi", but the "fla-" is good. Pierre