Return-path: X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:53:07 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MNWp1-0001yp-DU; Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:52:22 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:51:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MNWnv-0001yZ-9C for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:51:12 -0700 Received: from mail-fx0-f211.google.com ([209.85.220.211]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MNWnq-0001xI-I9 for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:51:11 -0700 Received: by fxm7 with SMTP id 7so3042378fxm.34 for ; Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:50:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vD1jzMubQ5mZwTe/pVS17j1w55ssiKni3j2MP4kP+kk=; b=PydNIhYvgUoBWwE7aCvMEV9r1R89Xsqh96GDA50YdguIABRAFiSl1EfVzKcCUlRVvU H3wZ0zYaHXpyMtvC5Dn5SuB8emHtsF1Ps2L+69BZEIDokbLDGkxfABx1Qlth3vd3Dhb7 VWv85Vo34WA858TRuu2ZZrHERubFEbN6Sos1k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=FHwFIdsM0m5QUi03xqChazozNdnnfP9LjHspmlBiJghJx1MyflOzZ6aN8RQ5XTZKnH ibse+qMxI+LFSHDuLtdetg+sag6KmEMrYS7/at/Mgp+zD+n0oHDP0V4bUCnYiqLeFnnl H8MWbHV6C3FFfOd3n14aty0vo/rg7gK/p27cI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.102.228.19 with SMTP id a19mr2151115muh.10.1246819859138; Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:50:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55762.67812.qm@web110406.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <55762.67812.qm@web110406.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 20:50:59 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6a81bac3f2b8a80b Message-ID: <4de8c3930907051150v584b7a31na29e6b515628c9ae@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: jbovlaste new entries From: tijlan To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jbotijlan@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 1535 Lines: 47 2009/7/5 Nathaniel Krause : > --- On Sat, 7/4/09, tijlan wrote: > > From: tijlan > Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: jbovlaste new entries > To: jbovlaste@lojban.org > Date: Saturday, July 4, 2009, 8:57 AM > > ja'arcu'a (elect; to choose in election) > c1 elects c2=j1 (candidate) from alternatives c3. > > * There is "gubycu'a" for "vote". > > I'm not sure there is a good lujvo option for "vote" and related concepts. How about "piktysku"? > Certainly, not all elections are for jatnas and not all jatna-choosings are > elections. According to Wikipedia, an election is: "a decision-making process by which a population chooses an individual to hold formal office". I think this definition of individual is covered by one of "jatna"'s senses that "x1 is in-charge of domain x2". > I had previously encountered this problem when trying to > translate the word "candidate", and had decided that only a fu'ivla would > handle it. I don't remember the specifics of what I came up with, though. "candidate"... maybe "lo nu'o se ja'arcu'a" as a derived form of "ja'arcu'a", or "lo selcu'adji" as a shorter but less descriptive alternative. > selgu'e (citizen; member of a state) > g2 is a citizen, a legally recognized member of g1 (country/state) in > g3 (land/territory). > > I don't think there's anything in the definition of "gugde" which specifies > legal recognition. In what nature other than legal could a country (x1) be 'of' people (x2)? mu'o mi'e tijlan