Return-path: X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 12:04:31 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MNX0f-0003bW-PU; Sun, 05 Jul 2009 12:04:24 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Sun, 05 Jul 2009 12:04:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MNX0L-0003b1-JO for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Sun, 05 Jul 2009 12:04:01 -0700 Received: from ol.freeshell.org ([192.94.73.20] helo=sdf.lonestar.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MNX0B-0003Z1-1t for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Sun, 05 Jul 2009 12:04:00 -0700 Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:jwodder@iceland.freeshell.org [192.94.73.5]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n65J3mV9006466 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 19:03:48 GMT Received: (from jwodder@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.3/8.12.8/Submit) id n65J3mJj014670 for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 19:03:48 GMT Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 19:03:48 +0000 From: Minimiscience To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: jbovlaste new entries Message-ID: <20090705190346.GA28509@sdf.lonestar.org> References: <55762.67812.qm@web110406.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4de8c3930907051150v584b7a31na29e6b515628c9ae@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4de8c3930907051150v584b7a31na29e6b515628c9ae@mail.gmail.com> Organization: SDF Public Access UNIX System User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: minimiscience@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 762 Lines: 19 de'i li 05 pi'e 07 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. tijlan .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatra. > In what nature other than legal could a country (x1) be 'of' people (x2)? .skamyxatra The people could be natives who were conquered by a foreign power through clever use of flags and then denied rights so that said foreign power could exploit them. I don't know of any examples in which natives were ever deemed illegal citizens, but I'm sure something similar has happened several times in history. (Actually, now that I think about this, the Romans didn't give their conquered subjects citizenship, yet the conquered lands were still said to be "of" the original peoples.) mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun. -- lonu ca rere'u finti le xislu cu ba sidju do lonu baza finti le vi'e xislu