Return-path: X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:17:23 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MQrFL-00028Q-8R; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:17:17 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:16:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MQrEa-00028F-BU for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:16:28 -0700 Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com ([209.85.218.227]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MQrEX-00026Y-H9 for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:16:28 -0700 Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so1268556bwz.34 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:16:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=G3alrxnqRsprqS/COCd4UtfcJpFLdSG31cCRFcSnULc=; b=HB9RI0nkL4sBkdQGD+XKQAayu4RmV3M/NrW0qAF++RWNws/PWoiOKmKX1iNoZg5cls 6xjFp8hCTMfev4tJwaOgRA5p44+oDrBSWYIAgXyyggabjcvJhmwI+Tp+CbG4CIxbXAsM AcvEydxY3Re7lqJKSQbWN78hr9Zmzaad93Ulk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Jw8SchNanilIRmVtSqW4xj9zCNFJX2k4NffmOu2qdHAstPbeflcsGNmjX+F1qxXPQC LaHnt94i/fKxGxY7FeljdD3DOStWFOvC4ZT5jw5sdc8NVZWnovxhTEUCZ6fpAF7lwrNi xXQhgigqmfwkHrjsQTYCtfeMbgCHtL9vE3LZw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.160.9 with SMTP id m9mr3639031muo.53.1247613379039; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:16:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4de8c3930907140713j5624ec59vc792be58fa18c1be@mail.gmail.com> <4de8c3930907141151v37941fedx1fe49fe77c43814f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 01:16:19 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: cd3834040d49308f Message-ID: <4de8c3930907141616v71095d27w3e8419cbe53afb1b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: adding a keyword From: tijlan To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jbotijlan@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 1084 Lines: 33 2009/7/14 Theodore Reed : > On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 11:51, tijlan wrote: >> 2009/7/14 Theodore Reed : >>> It what sense is that not "mapti"? >>> - >>> Theodore Reed >> >> I came across this sentence: >> "Usually, but not always, a country coincides with a sovereign territory." >> As I understand it, "mapti" is about two distinguishable things >> fitting to one another. In the example, "a country" and "a sovereign >> territory" are identical rather than being in the relation of >> ontologically distinct correspondence. > > I think that's still mapti, with an appropriately set x3. Note the > portions of the definition like "match" and "correspond". For the x3, my understanding has been along the line of something like la .brad. la .andjelinas. mapti lo ka prami simxu (i.e. matching between two individuals) rather than la .brad. lo ca'a speni be la .andjelinas. cu mapti lo ka srana la .andjelinas. (i.e. identifying one individual) Can the x1 and x2 of "mapti" be the same referent? mu'o mi'e tijlan