Return-path: X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 12:36:59 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MiZ9v-0005g7-Ka; Tue, 01 Sep 2009 12:36:55 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Tue, 01 Sep 2009 12:36:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MiZ9V-0005fz-GE for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2009 12:36:25 -0700 Received: from web88008.mail.re2.yahoo.com ([206.190.37.195]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MiZ9S-0005fi-EA for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2009 12:36:25 -0700 Received: (qmail 69701 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Sep 2009 19:36:16 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rogers.com; s=s1024; t=1251833776; bh=lj2VbTOzUXdiCWul4kmQC0q4SDSrBh0aDozWTjM+AMY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=vKpFL2BV20ClNbTX8N+TI+++laX3d2wMhaILhDGTNEyF/avuOL/9/RHb28UWQxZJ0+E6FpgSWAIuDXAUC9IaTX+33qEMfnMh08t8kX0ovYeH9Yl1+VCKsRnR8ztYP2aClvxBEOZHUBrCyOai/kLBjxyDZ6QHJ307dkbJk1ODS14= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=N2ZxTsN3lsiSh9TzenjUsZSxYxEzbKPjod2p2wgJ22i1k7TO2cjWOe1UUdDpUb2vwPqNyABTkQ0MtUHV2oVjUMN8r2fEdiv9Q6mSCafn2cB/Rd0IedQw9X3Ad/dW5HBPbhOTmLF8PrVKACA4sD3vcxhIrorRWsDJqyxl5yJQOAM=; Message-ID: <180785.68243.qm@web88008.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: _VCKsfEVM1lG5qee8MqbGivjnRO9MuyEBL1qK__uyAx1bNagZFA8iDjHCH5vEoRhwK22XNFyQs1..6JGIBh2PUQOo4IeWQU5MpZaT04OlHaYveLQFiKybPar1ZyaD5LkA_A7lGMu4pbSKH2g1yT.G9h4upT9MiQPjwoBqLFRUriqV9KwNaXynJ_CnXW.Y.gdzOSv5AL8xCfDsnPJ9eb0erZOw_SUkzLjzxyllt4cdpaeGATtLrSUOKKy5oW9Zo2IDpyogLPCoT5cgQdYZuBRYR.fDoSf2GsjMj96 Received: from [99.229.170.85] by web88008.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 01 Sep 2009 12:36:16 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1358.27 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 References: <711327.89799.qm@web88004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20090901171911.GA17385@sdf.lonestar.org> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 12:36:16 -0700 (PDT) From: "A. PIEKARSKI" Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: Ramadan etc To: jbovlaste@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <20090901171911.GA17385@sdf.lonestar.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: totus@rogers.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 961 Lines: 34 > > Eid ul Adha(Festival of sacrifice - the beginning of Ramadan):  > > ri'icatrynunsla > .skamyxatra > > That should be "{ri'ircatrynunsla}" with an 'r' between "ri'i" and "catr". Of course you are right - that was a typo. > (Also, Wikipedia says that Eid al-Adha takes place approximately 70 days after > Ramadan ends.) Oops!  Yes. > > > Eid ul Fitr (Festival of the end of the fast - end of Ramadan):  > > famsezyfantynunsla > > "end-self-prevent-celebration"?  "Celebration of preventing one's end"?  I > think something like "{caurfamnunsla}" ("Celebration of the end of lacking") > might be a better translation, though it could undoubtedly be improved. > Yes, that should have been  sezyfantyfamnunsla i.e. celebration of the end of self-restraint.  Are you suggesting caurfamnunsla is preferable because its shorter - or for another reason?   There was no response for Ramdana for Ramadan.  Does that mean it's ok as a fu'ivla?   totus