Return-path: X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:17:40 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MisWR-0005KH-8j; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:17:25 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:16:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MisVi-0005K9-7X for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:16:38 -0700 Received: from mail-yx0-f173.google.com ([209.85.210.173]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MisVe-0005Jd-PO for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:16:38 -0700 Received: by yxe3 with SMTP id 3so1306407yxe.17 for ; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:16:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wmOTfLD464VwkZ9W4a+O9dHo//VhHmCEth+Qz3jeIxw=; b=NmHWIi/b/PBNoY+pFoUUYd6fCKFzvsLgggU2v0q6nU4TtDhmNNYfrEcHavFJYQEWap fuVtcbwsi6Ma2uwewImJyfxSJ8b7EQPksXwXHmBneL9WhrZoEmh8JgmzRmM8kb+47Vs5 QeZglnUkU+9bYSlsDFPv39kseYDYCVtpJrL+w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pVF/A2Nx7A04PxduPxakZ2kCxPl25QHjb2aO8JpMjTdJb2w29dAQ2o61yHO8nOwo89 rGLsCufluTnjEbAn5+Y5/YxRyTo3yr3JQH+N82fnocxY/b0pXGXmn/chIIio5+w6lujW xSTLOUhTkzs10yTYRrMuFn8i78TI7B13u6H80= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.243.13 with SMTP id q13mr11459180ybh.167.1251908187992; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:16:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200909021140.45357.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <711327.89799.qm@web88004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <96f789a60909020814v2360ff50u14ebe4eaba5aef3a@mail.gmail.com> <200909021140.45357.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 12:16:27 -0400 Message-ID: <96f789a60909020916i25d988fbh3c898b6afece5481@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: Ramadan etc From: Michael Turniansky To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mturniansky@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 834 Lines: 20 On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Wednesday 02 September 2009 11:14:39 Michael Turniansky wrote: >>   Why the need for a brivla at all?  Why not la ramadan.  Problem >> solved.  It's like saying we need a brivla for for "pi'ekarskis"... > > Because it's a month. There's one in every year. x1 is the Ramadan of year x2. If that's your argument, then why just focus on Ramadan, why not fu'ivla for Muharram, Safar, Rabi' al-awwal, etc. etc.? And The Hebrew months, and the months of other calendrical systems? If you have la ramadan you can certainly say "ti me la ramadan de'i li pi'epi'e pavocino" or the like. The existence of one la ramadan also doesn't preclude the existence of another, just like one pir doesn't prevent another from existing? --gejyspa