Return-path: X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:25:52 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mqexg-00029n-2M; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:25:42 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:24:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mqewt-00029A-Ub for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:24:52 -0700 Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.122]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mqewo-000271-GW for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:24:51 -0700 Received: from chausie ([71.75.215.96]) by cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090924032429461.PBTG1442@cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com> for ; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 03:24:29 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id E17F4D630 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 23:24:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: spring Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 23:24:15 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <4de8c3930909221603l7df0bff5h207a18f8d34c18f2@mail.gmail.com> <200909231128.17734.phma@phma.optus.nu> <4de8c3930909230911k4777d04em4d5be77076326dc9@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4de8c3930909230911k4777d04em4d5be77076326dc9@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200909232324.20489.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 1146 Lines: 31 On Wednesday 23 September 2009 12:11:31 tijlan wrote: > 2009/9/23 Pierre Abbat : > > On Wednesday 23 September 2009 10:51:15 tijlan wrote: > >> Yes, i had thought about these two. But i realized "punsarlu" could > >> also mean "tornado" (which is an elastic spiral thing), and "punkro" > >> "paperclip" (which is an elastic crooked thing). > > > > Tornado?? I thought that was konbi'e. > > Using "brife" is obviously more appropriate for "tornado". What i want > to say though is that "punsarlu" cannot exclude "tornado", which is a > spiral thing capable of stretching and shrinking. I thought that you had a different meaning of "tornado" in mind than any I knew. > > As to a paperclip, it is a sort of > > spring too. There are coil springs and leaf springs, so why not > > bent-back-to-hold-things springs? > > I see. But considering the definition "an elastic object used to store > mechanical energy", it may be better to use "torni", the x2 of which > can be the stored energy, instead of "korcu", which lacks such a > terbri. Some springs twist; others stretch. "tcena" has yet another place structure. Pierre