Return-path: X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 12:43:41 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MrGhX-00022w-CW; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 12:43:33 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Fri, 25 Sep 2009 12:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MrGh8-00022n-K1 for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 12:43:06 -0700 Received: from web88004.mail.re2.yahoo.com ([206.190.37.191]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MrGh3-000225-DM for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 12:43:06 -0700 Received: (qmail 44227 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Sep 2009 19:36:57 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rogers.com; s=s1024; t=1253907416; bh=YWHxx8zhyXW/7fXkcaRly5eS3W+GbIDIhsX5EMjyt2A=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=TwN7HM1iV40s5rHp0PH4E5I3Xt4VCMUHaaS3EqgDftPfk10+vXueKKjf//ynlmMrybykmaUninWHDJy/RnBJ96P1CtBqt58G03lTweOfgGcNw5ieiYOAucnjTe3nvm+OFY3wuExTrdBT2oND1nu7zor+dI1CSdF23iFcXkEgkwg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=4jzheljlDfAPf1DZShCBHRlvkTn5D+XGHH2m5cOLw89gopLMxUdU567MzWU/+JS+78nMXEXc2umLwhzG/Ylgih8JdjJIbTUXfYK8NST2eQ49FWEVanbr1LS8iLmbNgmhZH6HMLXMsczw4tBKvhAHOI+lu7J8MykWjyVUBR1+/54=; Message-ID: <987212.43519.qm@web88004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: sCVb8xgVM1kyP_DWGltDQGHT3Kx_1Vuis_h7_5aoIr2mlo3V93iVWy8Qizg.RyneN5NPqAD4RPdLhdva_W43boimovNHxeMqq1PMBlDTuP5LKwGBWfGR3JjY16gBOAGIBQaUFJQDSubEGpOyUiUOqlU1p0GtZsyMf_Ih_zPQX99WhlT6FdUx1RPfB7dfhdNlt3x2opI33LfHRLnMSW5wQ_rEyGRdP6XCuch99E06vX_zXCmHKVvOat4A.7ny2QdKTDsk8c0p8kLHfzwTH2a3dLXa1WJZcQDSQXgKJngcYBB.2Q7dIxPdup9c1BFMrc7kXVsNJr08y2TRQEGydmBko4TU4E_qGk.GWqk- Received: from [99.229.170.85] by web88004.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 12:36:56 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/157.18 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 References: <72965.45092.qm@web88006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <200909251228.29322.phma@phma.optus.nu> <96f789a60909250945l602fbee2m74cdce9426c9de83@mail.gmail.com> <119114.87883.qm@web88003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <96f789a60909251211p111b9192p75caabcfe07efee6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 12:36:56 -0700 (PDT) From: "A. PIEKARSKI" Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: Esther Chapter 1 To: jbovlaste@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <96f789a60909251211p111b9192p75caabcfe07efee6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: totus@rogers.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 1066 Lines: 46 ----- Original Message ---- > From: Michael Turniansky > To: jbovlaste@lojban.org > Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 3:11:52 PM > Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: Esther Chapter 1 > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 2:55 PM, A. PIEKARSKI wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> >> kamnolraitru (majesty) > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> k1 is the majesty of t1=n1 being a regent/monarch of t2 by standard n2 > >> >> > >> >> gloss; majesty; kingship > >> > > >> > The Hebrew for "glory of his majesty" is "תפארת גדולתו", so I think > "majesty" > >> > should be translated as "kamba'i". > >> > > >> > >>   Very fair point.  I agree that to be faithful to the Hebrew, I will > >> use kamba'i in this place > >> > >> > > > > I'm afaid you've lost me with the Hebrew.  If the gloss words for > kamnolraitru are > > majesty and kingship, what would the gloss words be for kamba'i? > > > >   "Greatness" But we don't really use 'greatness' in English in this context.  Wouldn't it be 'majesty; greatness' as opposed to 'majesty; kingship'? mu'o mi'e andrus