Return-path: X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:55:44 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MrHpB-0000jn-6l; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:55:31 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:54:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MrHoV-0000jf-9P for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:54:47 -0700 Received: from mail-px0-f185.google.com ([209.85.216.185]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MrHoR-0000j0-BB for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:54:47 -0700 Received: by pxi15 with SMTP id 15so3526677pxi.25 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:54:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=b6rCUVcYOPQU58gm7SQMooULS15u2Qrn2M49F2IhABc=; b=YnTlq+LuWFyGEAqdbZv9ujHohUN3ZNIN6apeclIC4fcjjGsWecwhiYwiEJFld3jDNz QbuF/kfALQltrlfsLRMaF5mvq7AZzfSkHf5V3S4q8lCyAqM3L2njzpPanfRxKsSTFB31 aqTJj6Lsms9E92Fi/wxSyWsu2X8GC4XHHSRrg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ertxR0P89CMGml+aJ9emP407+V4XL0dysZSA5ooeFepgRzyddMxTXEQW1azwUZi/vi v+ad7uTr1ehWQr27AOSncSJDl+RUNrwMJOs21X/AxCgFE92W9Oavzt/DaVJFfEeIEgg3 6ianp/dBZ7tgvyeevolCYhnZfI4Wz2owuE7TE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.9.37 with SMTP id 37mr43307wfi.116.1253912077217; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:54:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <987212.43519.qm@web88004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <72965.45092.qm@web88006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <200909251228.29322.phma@phma.optus.nu> <96f789a60909250945l602fbee2m74cdce9426c9de83@mail.gmail.com> <119114.87883.qm@web88003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <96f789a60909251211p111b9192p75caabcfe07efee6@mail.gmail.com> <987212.43519.qm@web88004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:54:37 -0400 Message-ID: <96f789a60909251354u34da6cbw8bcdaea77b24efc3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: Esther Chapter 1 From: Michael Turniansky To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mturniansky@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 1348 Lines: 51 On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 3:36 PM, A. PIEKARSKI wrote: > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Michael Turniansky >> To: jbovlaste@lojban.org >> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 3:11:52 PM >> Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: Esther Chapter 1 >> >> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 2:55 PM, A. PIEKARSKI wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> kamnolraitru (majesty) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> k1 is the majesty of t1=n1 being a regent/monarch of t2 by standard n2 >> >> >> >> >> >> gloss; majesty; kingship >> >> > >> >> > The Hebrew for "glory of his majesty" is "תפארת גדולתו", so I think >> "majesty" >> >> > should be translated as "kamba'i". >> >> > >> >> >> >>   Very fair point.  I agree that to be faithful to the Hebrew, I will >> >> use kamba'i in this place >> >> >> >> >> > >> > I'm afaid you've lost me with the Hebrew.  If the gloss words for >> kamnolraitru are >> > majesty and kingship, what would the gloss words be for kamba'i? >> > >> >>   "Greatness" > > But we don't really use 'greatness' in English in this context.  Wouldn't it be > 'majesty; greatness' as opposed to 'majesty; kingship'? > > King Ahasuerus was basically showing off how great he was -- his greatness. If ou want to call it splendor, majesty, whatever it's up to you. --gejyspa Off until Tuesday