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From: "A. PIEKARSKI" <totus@rogers.com>
Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: Esther Chapter 2
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> > 2) {ciblrmoru}
> > x1 is myrrh.
>
> {molmolo}, and the place structure should be "x1 is myrrh of species x2".
>
> doi pier ma krasi zo molmolo
> 
> Commiphora molmol is a synonym of C. myrrha. Judging from the botanists' names 
> appended, Nees named C. myrrha, Engler named C. molmol, and later Engler 
> decided that they're the same species.

But Pierre, unless it is clear that C.molmol is the generally accepted form, why bother 
changing from C.myrrh?  It's just one guy's opinion (Engler's) against another's (Nees').

> >
> > 3) {speme'a}
> >
> > m1=s1 is a concubine, with lower rank than m2 by the amount of m4 ranks, 
> belonging to s2 under tradition s3.
> >
> 
>   No.  I have it me'aspe, not speme'a (as you have here)  for a
> reason.  I think the important thing is that it's a wife, not that
> it's a lesser thing.
> 
>   m1=s1 is a concubine/lesser spouse of s2 under law/custom/convetion s3
> 

But isn't this the same situation that we discussed with xorxes for words like 
{selteptce}, {stanycma}, and plinycma?

fearsome: {selteptce} not {tceselte'a}  
from: m1 mutce lo ka t2 se terpa t1 kei m3
 
sprout: {stanycma} not {cmastani}
from: c1=s1 cmalu loka stani s2 kei c3
 
asteroid {plinycma} not {cmaplini}
from: c1 cmalu loka p1 plini p2 p3 p4 kei c3
 
In all the above cases, _tce, _cma, etc can be expanded easily to their 
origins.  How would you expand {tceselte'a}, {cmastini}, {cmaplini} and ...
{me'aspe}?
 
totus