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PIEKARSKI" Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: Cosmology To: jbovlaste@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <4de8c3930911021528m6da0ba6ctdb246599258d207c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: totus@rogers.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 1279 Lines: 30 > > 2) {caljoitei}: > > c1=t1 is space-time occupied by c2 > > According to Einstein, space and time are two aspects of a unified > whole. Spacetime is not really a mixture of two originally individual > things per se (and such a mixture is i think what "joi" is for > usually); it's a matrix of two aspects of one thing. That is, > spacetime is more like "canlu je temci" than "canlu joi temci". But i > could be wrong. It might be just hairsplitting. And i like the sound > of "caljoitei" more than "caljvetei" or "caljevytei". > I'm probably on shaky ground here, and we could do with some inputs from physicists.  My understanding is that space and time are just 4 dimensions in a universe that has more than 4 dimensions. In theory, no one dimension has 'primacy' over any other.  However, we humans see the 3 dimensions (space) but feel the 4th - so in that sense they are different. The question is: what role should these musings have in the formulation of the lujvo?  Frankly, I don't know.  But in anycase, the sound of the lujvo is not relevant. A lujvo that sounds OK in English, may sound stunningly melodic in Quechua, and just terrible in Swahili.  I think we need to continue to resist the temptation to make lojban Anglo- or Euro-centric. totus