Return-path: X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:10:02 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N8HdQ-0002xi-Jj; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:09:39 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:08:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N8Hcd-0002xX-Us for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:08:48 -0800 Received: from mail-yx0-f202.google.com ([209.85.210.202]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N8HcW-0002x0-U1 for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:08:47 -0800 Received: by yxe40 with SMTP id 40so1281995yxe.28 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:08:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=X8ilPQPAT7zbTVEGa2a9GU8enXwYzHAwgmDf4S09u9E=; b=vFHCWbJqb8MdbPAULzepRMTxZr29dEvfhUHA47DME5yFJp7zxKZuzBE6+DC0tH2kDo FLhck77ASVaaxHrCG4W/xgbEcmE4ov2bq4g4JCkqwvnJ/cwaxsNsvDiEAb6BcI/kayWx RnMLr2IB+F4/SuKfftaeHyp4Ul2c0wcWhUKTE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=n5WBXSKj7XdYuIZJ5r90ll/+nRKqmEmX4FRSUnV1elvoD0x1VcCMqWq2yZMEf8FQHp ri0XijZbxAcMHd39TmhUsHDZjXlsu46XF+CC6bu63pd4LL6AgT7eL+yzidAVLIz4I/o1 Zz9HPY9VUlxwzMqibdWGzgBT5cMvUdDrLfyGQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.183.37 with SMTP id s37mr195608hbg.90.1257962913382; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:08:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <200911111201.42238.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <693481.42220.qm@web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <200911111201.42238.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:08:33 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e7870b7c37fb8dc1 Message-ID: <12d58c160911111008u397a07a0k6669145f71ab4668@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: Esther Chapter 4 From: "komfo,amonan" To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f7948297c16c04781c50af X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: komfoamonan@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 2337 Lines: 73 --001485f7948297c16c04781c50af Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Wednesday 11 November 2009 09:28:42 A. PIEKARSKI wrote: > > nalcti (fast) > > > > citka: c1 eats/ingests/consumes (transitive verb) c2 > > > > c1 nalcti c2 > > c1 abstains from eating c2; c1 fasts > > > > gloss: > > > > fast; abstain from eating > > diet > > c2 is useful to talk about partial fasts; one could say "mi nalcti lo > sligu", > for instance. But what if one never eats a particular food? Would you say > "mi > nalcti lo xarju" in such a case? > Fasting also covers reduction of food intake. Then there's "juice fast". Those would not be covered by {nalcti} (not that I'm saying you asserted that). I think 'diet' would not be a proper gloss for {nalcti}, but would fall into the reduction case. mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan --001485f7948297c16c04781c50af Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
On Wednesday 11 November 2009 09:28:42 A. PIEKARSKI wrote= :
> nalcti (fast)
>
> citka: c1 eats/ingests/consumes (transitive verb) c2
>
> c1 nalcti c2
> c1 abstains from eating c2; c1 fasts
>
> gloss:
>
> fast; abstain from eating
> diet

c2 is useful to talk about partial fasts; one could say "mi nalc= ti lo sligu",
for instance. But what if one never eats a particular food? Would you say &= quot;mi
nalcti lo xarju" in such a case?

Fasting also covers reduction of food intake. Then there= 's "juice fast". Those would not be covered by {nalcti} (not = that I'm saying you asserted that).

I think 'diet' would not be a proper gloss for {nalcti}, but wo= uld fall into the reduction case.

mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan
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