Return-path: X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 09:09:40 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NGbem-00061S-8M; Fri, 04 Dec 2009 09:09:27 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Fri, 04 Dec 2009 09:08:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NGbe8-00061J-3f for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2009 09:08:44 -0800 Received: from mail-gx0-f224.google.com ([209.85.217.224]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NGbe2-00060S-88 for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2009 09:08:43 -0800 Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so1907610gxk.6 for ; Fri, 04 Dec 2009 09:08:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=uTJ7YJ8WHrdLmNzcQx0HIMVqu7RSH7NWsxY08o/tmcY=; b=Cetbqndtioy7qh8aPaA4EtME2an1UoTQSq1cjmS/n2zwQsK1Nir+DqlM1HiQvI7ePv KH7nxun73Oeyo/h8MM/dPDOdAu2Ogrpqct8EvHJu3QDnNyvCX5nHAr9brE80OPuxPD7o dkQweOKDgvUCb/axZqKcWIf3CqGfRh70NGLNI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HEjDlvwKBOKHepS4jIMGoKivWmlyaaJsJM291fx6akyH2NNQ0W/Xe4I2erlNekgaAu /KIDBCERbIT+dhDi0V6VAWmCQ8GF5hvnSTOIkCrEVyAFugzSl9NJpwc8cQB/I5aGRT9+ 0Jzwm1fnZ0qqJDxTecpUq+sj0aKBhDE1aQN2c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.113.13 with SMTP id l13mr5861100ybc.248.1259946511965; Fri, 04 Dec 2009 09:08:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <40b71af30912040818g557da20an36397ee345d8e3d9@mail.gmail.com> References: <40b71af30912040818g557da20an36397ee345d8e3d9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 12:08:31 -0500 Message-ID: <5715b9300912040908g3d43c4aq9adcd83fdaec67a7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: Fwd: fi'e or fi'i or other? (duplicate of a message sent to lojban-list) From: Luke Bergen To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd3ae80481d840479ea2838 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 2932 Lines: 72 --000e0cd3ae80481d840479ea2838 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 No, I think everything is ok. cmavo are different from rafsi. rafsi are not stand-alone words and will never been seen by themselves. For this reason it is ok that {fi'e} is {finti}'s modal because {fi'e} as the rafsi of {finpe} will never be seen by itself, it will always be in a lujvo with other rafsi. I feel like I've seen things like this before where it was not a big deal (for the above reason). On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Frank wrote: > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Frank > Date: 2009/12/4 > Subject: fi'e or fi'i or other? > To: lojban-list@lojban.org > > > coi rodo > I noticed the xml from jbovlaste states fi'e is "finti modal, 1st place > (creator) created by ...". However, fi'e is also a rafsi for finpe. Should > the "finti modal ..." actually refer to fi'i, the rafsi of finti? If so, > what of the fact the file states fi'i is a vocative indicative of > hospitality/inhospitality? > > mi'e xuinkrbin. > > --000e0cd3ae80481d840479ea2838 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No, I think everything is ok. =A0cmavo are different from rafsi. rafsi are = not stand-alone words and will never been seen by
=A0themselves. =A0For= this reason it is ok that {fi'e} is {finti}'s modal because {fi= 9;e} as the rafsi of {finpe} will never be seen by itself, it will always b= e in a lujvo with other rafsi.

I feel like I've seen things like this before where= it was not a big deal (for the above reason).

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Frank <frankdmartinez@gmail.com> wrote:
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From: Frank <frankdmartinez@gmail.com>
Date: 2009/12/4
Subject: fi'e or fi'i or other?
To: lojban-list@lojban.org


coi r= odo
=A0=A0 =A0I noticed the xml from jbovlaste states fi'e is "= ;finti modal, 1st place (creator) created by ...". =A0However, fi'= e is also a rafsi for finpe. =A0Should the "finti modal ..." actu= ally refer to fi'i, the rafsi of finti? =A0If so, what of the fact the = file states fi'i is a vocative indicative of hospitality/inhospitality?=

mi'e xuinkrbin.


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