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Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: new word: prolijmo'a
From: David Gowers <00ai99@gmail.com>
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On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 4:56 AM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> After reading through the chapter on lujvo making in the CLL I'm beginning
> to wonder how important it really is to perfectly describe exactly what you
> want to mean.
> If I were making a tanru to mean "checker pattern" I might need to use vlina
> kurfa dasri morna.  But if the true meaning of a lujvo comes from it's
> definition and not strictly it's component gismu (we remove {sel} and {nun}
> all the time) then do we really need to describe it perfectly with ba'u 50+
> gismu?  Also, it seems to me that if only a couple of gismu are necessary to
> describe an idea without other ideas intersecting with it, why add more?  Is
> there anything more obvious than "checker pattern" for kurfa morna to mean?
>  Maybe later if someone wants to describe that pattern that a tic-tac-toe
> board makes they could make a bigger lujvo that pulls {linji} into it.  But
> do we need to make every lujvo as big as the biggest lujvo necessary?

Do we 'need to make it as big as the biggest lujvo necessary'? :)
I think that would have to be a yes, no matter who you ask.
I guess you probably meant 'as big as the most comfortably unambiguous lujvo'
or something of the sort.


> Therefore, unless many people object, I'm going to create a new word kurmo'a
> (I've already voted down prolijmo'a).  I'll wait for a bit in case anybody
> is violently opposed to kurmo'a

That's fair enough for the general public (do we have that here? ;)
and a good point.
I'm just unlikely to use the short version, as it covers too much ground
for me to be comfortable with as an artist:

checkboards, uneven and even grids, bricks or pavement tiling, tartan,
certain carpet patterns, zigzag stitching, pixel art tiles
(particularly the older, low res ones)...

For the reasons you pointed out, I *will* use kurmo'a in my gimp
translation though.