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Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: new word: prolijmo'a
From: David Gowers <00ai99@gmail.com>
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On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>checkboards, uneven and even grids, bricks or pavement tiling, tartan,
>>certain carpet patterns, zigzag stitching, pixel art tiles
>>(particularly the older, low res ones)...
> So these would be those words that I was talking about when I said
>> Maybe later if someone wants to describe that pattern that a tic-tac-toe
>> board makes they could make a bigger lujvo that pulls {linji} into it
> I think checker boards, pixel art tiles, and a brick wall all exhibit a
> pattern that is a variation on the basic, standard check pattern.
Don't agree on pixel art tiles. In general, any seamlessly wrapping
piece of pixel art qualifies as kurmo'a, because , even if it depicts
a circle, it does so by the composition of rectangular/square elements
in a grid (where the pixels are often shown large enough to see
individual ones clearly.) That's not really very similar to a
checkerboard at all IMO.

> So, is it
> fair to say that the more general/standard the idea, the smaller the lujvo
> can comfortably be?  While the more specific/non-standard/varied ideas get
> longer lujvo?
> e.g.  {cicti'a} = "storm" but when we want to get more specific we have
> {bifyvilcarvi} = "windstorm"
> So for instance, I wanted to define the word originally because I wanted to
> translated "handsome checked suit".  That seems like a pretty general use of
> the word to me.

Fair enough. I probably need to do more reading of CLL.